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  • IMDAZED
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    #41
    Originally posted by ironmt
    I guess we will disagree on who has the better resume than. Their Is only one fighter when mentioning Floyd and Oscar who was willing to take risks and fight other prime fighters.
    I don't include losses as an accomplishment so yeah. That's kind of a baseline for me. Or else I'd consider Oba Carr and Zab Judah HOF'ers.

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      #42
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      I don't include losses as an accomplishment so yeah. That's kind of a baseline for me. Or else I'd consider Oba Carr and Zab Judah HOF'ers.
      I guess you never truly understood the term, A fighters stock can rise even In defeat than. Did losses hurt Ward, Gatti, Morales or Barrera when they fought each other? There are times when taking a loss to a good name can actually elevate your status, depending on how you lost. So, Oscar had losses. Would Floyd have had losses fighting the guys Oscar did? Could Floyd beat a prime Mosley, Trinidad or an old Hopkins? We will never know because Floyd wasn't willing to take that chance. Being undefeated and using that undefeated record to make the biggest money possible was more Important to him than legacy.
      Last edited by ironmt; 09-07-2017, 03:29 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by ironmt
        I guess you never truly understood the term, A fighters stock can rise even In defeat than. Did losses hurt Ward, Gatti, Morales or Barrera when they fought each other? There are times when taking a loss to a good name can actually elevate your status, depending on how you lost. So, Oscar had losses. Would Floyd have had losses fighting the guys Oscar did? Could Floyd beat a prime Mosley, Trinidad or an old Hopkins? We will never know because Floyd wasn't willing to take that chance. Being undefeated and using that undefeated record to make the biggest money possible was more Importatnt to him than legacy.
        We can't agree on a baseline so your points are moot.

        Again, I don't count losses among accomplishments.

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          #44
          Originally posted by ironmt
          No, the 34 year old Oscar was not In his prime.
          That means a non prime Floyd beat.... Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao, Canelo and Maidana.....

          Sure u wanna go this route??? ����������
          Last edited by BluDivision; 09-08-2017, 09:53 AM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by ironmt
            He didn't clearly whoop an old Oscar, not sure how he beats a prime Oscar.
            Floyd got Oscar 8-4!!!!

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              #46
              Originally posted by ironmt
              What Is that supposed to mean? Floyd's resume doesn't come close to Oscar's. Floyd barely got by on a split decision against a 34 year old Oscar. No way In this world does Floyd beat a prime 26-27 year old De La Hoya.
              Every version of Floyd beats any version of Oscar! It's levels!

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                #47
                Originally posted by ironmt
                As I said, Oscar's resume buries Floyd's

                Genaro Hernandez
                Julio Cesar Chavez
                Pernell Whitaker
                Ike Quartey
                Felix Trinidad
                Shane Mosley
                Fernando Vargas
                Bernard Hopkins
                Floyd Mayweather Jr
                Manny Pacquiao

                You can't name one prime fighter Floyd beat, yet his resume Is better than Oscar's
                Hernandez
                Corrales
                Gatti
                Judah
                De La Hoya
                Marquez
                Hatton
                Cotto
                Canelo
                Pacquaio
                Mosley...

                But Floyd went undefeated against them all!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ironmt
                  It's more about who you fought and when you fought them. Having a regular job and boxing are two different things. Having a record without a loss due to not fighting prime fighters, Is not a bigger accomplishment than taking a risk and fighting other prime fighters and losing.
                  You don't understand the word "Prime" obviously. Floyd fought Oscar in the prime of his career. Cotto in the prime of his career. Judah in the prime of his career. Hatton in the prime of his career. Corrales in the prime of his career. Marquez in the prime of his career. Canelo in the prime of his career.

                  The term prime is misused in boxing so much. It's more than age... It's a meeting ground of physical & mental make up!
                  Last edited by BluDivision; 09-08-2017, 09:55 AM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ironmt
                    Yes we are discussing resume. Who fought the bigger names In their prime?

                    Would you feel better about yourself beating up a 50 year old or fighting a 30 year old, taking a loss, but giving a good fight?
                    Floyd is older than the last 9 fighters on his résumé! 3-4 are hall of famers! 😂😂😂😂😂

                    All the Floyd hate is ridiculous!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BluDivision
                      You don't understand the word "Prime" obviously. Floyd fought Oscar is the prime of his career. Cotto in the prime of his career. Judah in the prime of his career. Hatton in the prime of his career. Corrales in the prime of his career. Marquez in the prime of his career. Canelo in the prime of his career.

                      The term prime is misused in boxing so much. It's more than age... It's a meeting ground of physical & mental make up!
                      With the above comments, It Is clear you are very young and new to the sport. None of your responses are worth the effort of a response. Take care and watch more boxing.

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