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  • Johnny2x2x
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    #11
    Originally posted by maracho
    Ali took on all comers and was funny, which made people forget about a lot of his bad sides
    Ali was more hated than Mayweather for most of his career. People forget this if they weren't alive and an active fan during Ali's career. He didn't become universally loved until well after he retired.

    People hated Ali because of his style of avoiding getting hit (sound familiar?). His haters said he wasn't a real man or a real fighter unless he stood toe to toe. His battles with Frazier were all about the "real" tough guy who kept his mouth shut and wen't toe to toe vs the loud mouthed defensive fighter who won with his smarts and speed and then talked too much.

    They also hated when he changed his name and he was so hated when he took a stand against Vietnam that he received countless death threats. He was despised by much of white America for daring to show black pride and for his confidence in himself.

    People forget history, they even forget how hated MLK was when he was alive, these facts should not be forgotten because forgetting them downplays the courage these heroes showed. Ali was a hero because half the country wanted him dead, but he still wouldn't sit down and shut up, same with MLK.

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    • BluDivision
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      #12
      Originally posted by maracho
      Ali took on all comers and was funny, which made people forget about a lot of his bad sides
      Ali didn't choose who he fought. Match makers did. People hated Ali because he was loud and brash!!!! They love him now but hated him then!

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      • maracho
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        #13
        Originally posted by Johnny2x2x
        Ali was more hated than Mayweather for most of his career. People forget this if they weren't alive and an active fan during Ali's career. He didn't become universally loved until well after he retired.

        People hated Ali because of his style of avoiding getting hit (sound familiar?). His haters said he wasn't a real man or a real fighter unless he stood toe to toe. His battles with Frazier were all about the "real" tough guy who kept his mouth shut and wen't toe to toe vs the loud mouthed defensive fighter who won with his smarts and speed and then talked too much.

        They also hated when he changed his name and he was so hated when he took a stand against Vietnam that he received countless death threats. He was despised by much of white America for daring to show black pride and for his confidence in himself.

        People forget history, they even forget how hated MLK was when he was alive, these facts should not be forgotten because forgetting them downplays the courage these heroes showed. Ali was a hero because half the country wanted him dead, but he still wouldn't sit down and shut up, same with MLK.
        Most everybody rooted for Ali even though he was an outspoken racist even against his own people

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        • maracho
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          #14
          Originally posted by BluDivision
          Ali didn't choose who he fought. Match makers did. People hated Ali because he was loud and brash!!!! They love him now but hated him then!
          Wrong, Ali even went to Russia to fight with their best heavies, and he did MMA. Ali did what the heck he wanted to do

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            #15
            GGG vs Canelo is definitely a top 5 middleweight fight since 1980. It may be top 3.
            If it's a proper scrap and not a boring points win

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            • filup79
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              #16
              I feel Floyd would have been a betting favorite against anyone he fought. He would have been a slight favorite against Mosely and Oscar if those two would have chose to fight Floyd when Floyd was calling them out. There's a reason those two guys didn't fight Floyd earlier, Floyd was high risk and low reward fight at that time. I really don't see anyone being a favorite over Floyd, not even the fighters people claimed he ducked. Only fighter that would be a favorite over Floyd would be an elite fighter who is 2 weight classes above him.

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              • future hendrixx
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                #17
                its not floyds fault the odds were always in his favor. thats called greatness. he wanted to fight "prime" oscar but arum wasnt having it. he also called out prime shane who had a toothache..and he also called out tzsyu. go watch his massacre of hatton, spot young cotto and hatton ringside ****ting on themselves. floyd was heavily ducked before he became this money machine.

                and canelo will ko little g. It wont be competitive.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Daily Bread Mailbag
                  Floyd took his time, broke him down, took him in deep water and drowned him.

                  It’s exactly what he does in all of his fights.


                  that is exactly what I said, and predicted

                  some people say the dumbest things for the dumbest reasons

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by breadman
                    Unfortunately for GGG his legacy is on the line in this fight. He needs this one to solidify it...... I think he will get snipped if he doesn’t win.

                    damn, I got called a hater when I said that

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                    • ironmt
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by future hendrixx
                      its not floyds fault the odds were always in his favor. thats called greatness. he wanted to fight "prime" oscar but arum wasnt having it. he also called out prime shane who had a toothache..and he also called out tzsyu. go watch his massacre of hatton, spot young cotto and hatton ringside ****ting on themselves. floyd was heavily ducked before he became this money machine.

                      and canelo will ko little g. It wont be competitive.
                      Good thing he didn't get a prime Oscar or we wouldn't be talking about 50-0 right now.

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