he definitive guide to Arum ducking fighters and spreading lies

[Xi_]

Excellent post...of course pacf@gs and arum fanboys will disagree.

[maracho]

Speaking of slander, James likes to run with all kinds of slander against Manny Pacqiauo by promoters Oscar and Floyd, etc that they settled out of court for after Floyd's own PED tests were subpoened.

I've heard Oscar never wanted to open up his ped test either

[whoelsebutjames]

Arum is so unbiquitous with boxing that the hyperbole we hear is never even attributed him. The boxing scribes mimic his opinion and repeat them verbatim with out ever acknowledging the source.

Arum easily makes fights with other promoters anytime his fighter is clearly the A Side. Such as Terrence Crawford career. Terrence fought Molina semi-recently who is managed by Haymon. When negotiations are in his favor the fights get made expeditiously.



Arum has already started to criticize Thurman and Danny Garcia. In the video I posted in the an initial post.
As khan said in the other video I posted he thought the fight with Pacquiao was dons and Arum changed directions without notice. So we already know, now that Terrence is at 147 who he will be targeting- Khan, Garcia, Thurman. I think the Khan thing is important because it was an easy rivalry to sell. Khan ran his mouth too much about roach's gym and deserved that beating.

The Khan fight is a no brainer but if Haymon fighters --whom are used to getting paid well- don't want to get bullied at the negotiation table he will be calling them ducks. That's how his game works.

Arum is easily able to manipulate public opinion through his influence and slander to get things his way. When he can't get favorable terms we get fights like PAC Vs Rios, PAC vs Clottey, PAC vs Algeri, Loma vs Sosa, Loma Vs Marriaga. He's litterally making tomato cans look like viable opponents because everybody else is "scared or wants too much money." I think he's the one who wants too much money.

Garcia calls out Loma and instead of giving a reasonable explanation such as-- why would Loma move up now-- or Loma needs a few more fights to grow into weight. It's Mikey wants millions. Broner wants millions. But we all know where the Mikey's a duck slander started right?
Lomanchenko 750k vs Marriaga 50k 94/06 split
Lomachenko 1 mil vs Walters 300k 70/30 Link here


And these are all his fighters lol. imagine what he's trying to do to the competion. hmmm.. but what about this http://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenk...g-more--102851

Hell, Roman got a better deal.
Lomanchenko 850k vs Martinez (reported)425-550k 60/40

To put this in perspective. Salido Vs Vargas 950k viewership. Loma vs Marriaga 720k viewership, Loma vs Sosa 900k viewership. Loma vs Walters 760k viewership. Lomanchenko vs Martinez 580k viewership

There's no doubt in mind that Pacquiao, Crawford, and Loma will fight anybody you put in front of them.

Excellent post...of course pacf@gs and arum fanboys will disagree.

Thanks- i
it's funny because I didnt even insult Pacquiao. It suprising that Arum has so many fans.

[maracho]

hmmmm... i wonder why Khan vs Pac never happened... 4/12 fighters were not with top rank.. Where is the Pac vs Thurman, Brook, Spence Porter talk?????? The Khan pac rivalry didnt produce a fight because Khan is with Al Haymon... Pacs literally ran out of ARUM fighters to fight LOL

AMIR KHAN SAYS BOB ARUM TO BLAME FOR PACQUIAO FIGHT NOT HAPPENING; EXPLAINS IN DETAIL WHAT HAPPENED


Said fight was done.... Bob held it up...

3 different fighters.. same thing...... Do you notice a pattern here
Can Arum negotiate a fight where his fighter is not the A side???

Khan says: "it seemed to me that Arum didnt want the fight" and he says that he was "told" the funds were there but you have to have funds up front to make the fight happen. Arum said that the government has all the say. Did Khan talk to the government? A government that bans bikinis, kissing, cussing, etc etc. Has there ever even been a pro boxing match there?

Jeff Horn is an undefeated fighter while Khan was just dominated and KOd. It woulda been interesting though to see how the ******s scored for Khan

Every non arum fighter is a cautious fighter...

He only talked about the Thurman vs Garcia fight not leading up to the expectations like Leonard vs Hearns fighters did

Arum wants broner for pac 05/17


Arum bashes everyfighter that doesnt belong to him. Look on youtube and you will find more than enough evidence. People only believe Arum when its conveinant.

Who exactly did he bash in this video? Arum is a Schmuck but your videos do not support your propaganda.

[rickJen]

How can this sport be able to move on with these types of posters?
They make alts just for this purpose of trashing fighters.
It would be more palatable if they focus on fighters not active enough.
They love resurrecting acrimonious topics which were already debated millions of times already. As if there's anything new.
Arum/HBO/Pac/TR/GGG are evil.
TBE/Haymon/Ellerbe/Sho/Ward can do no wrong.
Same effing subject everytime.
You'd wonder why they don't just stay where they belong, floydhype.com
We see fighters like Spence not active in his prime.
And it seems okay with them.

[whoelsebutjames]

i get paid by Bob to tank threads and spread misinformation on the internet

Chess not checkers ay... well played, Bob.

[GhostofDempsey]

Great post!

One look at this and it becomes very clear why it took so long for May-Pac to actually happen.

And again, it still would have never happened if it was up to Arum.

One face to face meeting without Flappy Bob around and the thing got done.

Arum has done a lot to hurt the sport.

The fight took so long to happen because Floyd himself admitted that he "marinated" the fight for several years in order to make it a bigger PPV event. Tried taking credit for being smart instead of blame for ducking.

[whoelsebutjames]

Ima keep checking this thread to make sure no serious conversation happens here ever, even though I haven't been mentioned and already stated my opinion twice. I get paid to Spam these threads, bobs a clever bastard

Well played, Bob.

[koolkc107]

The fight took so long to happen because Floyd himself admitted that he "marinated" the fight for several years in order to make it a bigger PPV event. Tried taking credit for being smart instead of blame for ducking.

Of course Floyd took credit, that what "Money" does.
He tries to portray himself as more savvy than all of us.

But, the facts say different. And if you are going to use that iconic name you should know better.

The facts say there were several really good chances to make the fight before 2015, and each and every time it fell thru it was because of Pac and Arum.

[GhostofDempsey]

Of course Floyd took credit, that what "Money" does.
He tries to portray himself as more savvy than all of us.

But, the facts say different. And if you are going to use that iconic name you should know better.

The facts say there were several really good chances to make the fight before 2015, and each and every time it fell thru it was because of Pac and Arum.

Wrong again. Mayweather produced at least ten or more excuses each time they attempted to make fight. Always moving the goal post and coming up with a new excuse to duck. He admits he marinated it for years, so that is all the proof anyone needs to see who really stalled that fight. It was Floyd who had the most to gain by stalling this fight, waiting for Pac to slow down. Pac wasn't trying to preserve an undefeated record, Floyd was.