So much of McTapout and bashing MMA but...

[BillyBoxing]

...what about James "Tapsout" Toney lol

Seriously, I'm a fan of boxing first but respects a lot MMA fighters.

We should respect every fighter from boxing OR MMA.

Guys acting on this forum like boxing defenders when they are nothing to the sport but groupies.
Those boxing snobs are the worst fans.

MMA fighters are actually tapping out because the ref or the corner won't stop the fight unless the guy is unconscious.

James Toney, who never got stopped in boxing tapped out in MMA. Just showing how MMA can be tough.

Thank you for reading

[kilojay505]

Tony was shot,100 yrs and just looking for a easy payday.he got 500k for that fight

[Redd Foxx]

A 70 year old Toney cashing in on an MMA opportunity is somehow a strike against 'boxing snobs'? Sorry, but this thread is what you call a "swing and a miss".

[Madison Boxing]

mcgregor didnt get the respect because he came into boxing and talked a whole lot of **** about the sport and a lot of the most prominent fighters. im just so sick of this boxing v mma stuff now, this whole circus has overshadowed 2017 and its still the number 1 topic on here, despite the best fight of the year on paper being less than 2 weeks away.

[IronDanHamza]

mcgregor didnt get the respect because he came into boxing and talked a whole lot of **** about the sport and a lot of the most prominent fighters. im just so sick of this boxing v mma stuff now, this whole circus has overshadowed 2017 and its still the number 1 topic on here, despite the best fight of the year on paper being less than 2 weeks away.

Some "Boxing fans" actuallt respect this fool.

[-Johannes-]

Toney was a fat tub of goo in 2006 imagine what 4 more years of Burger King does to you.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

We should respect every fighter from boxing OR MMA.

The issue is that MMA is not well-developed yet. You'd be very hard pushed to call it art... whereas boxing transcends brutality and has a rich heritage. Watching a good boxer is elegance epitomised - that's not an accident, that's come about through honing. Maybe one day MMA will reach the level of boxing, after several millenia of development, say, but as it is right now, MMA is barbaric, unskilled, and not pretty to watch. Boxing, on the other hand, is an ancient and beautiful form of fighting.

The respect we have for boxers is at least partly a function of historical love for the game, but it's also a testimony to the honour-systems at play. Right now, MMA is a mess to watch and the inherent values carried within the "discipline"--a real stretch of the word--of MMA are unsophisticated... to jump on a man when he's down and then to rear-choke him into unconsciousness... that might be your bag, but I just find it distasteful. Similarly, I see nothing graceful about lumbering into another man's knees in order to tackle them to the ground. Don't get me wrong, I like to watch UFC sometimes but I have to be in a nihilistic, bloodthirsty sort of mood. There doesn't seem to be much honour in MMA: one slip and your opponent is apparently obliged to jump in with elbows. That's not sport. That's sacrificial.

TL;DR - MMA is a young sport, and not really even a sport

[HandsofIron]

As others have pointed out - Toney was old, shot, and a punch drunk, fat tube of lard looking for a paycheck.

I have no problem with McG, he's good at what he does, MMA, but he's not a professional boxer. The commission should have never allowed this contest to commence because it damaged the integrity of the sport.

Mayweather boxing a UFC novice.............what a dork, smfh.

[KingHippo]

The issue is that MMA is not well-developed yet. You'd be very hard pushed to call it art... whereas boxing transcends brutality and has a rich heritage. Watching a good boxer is elegance epitomised - that's not an accident, that's come about through honing. Maybe one day MMA will reach the level of boxing, after several millenia of development, say, but as it is right now, MMA is barbaric, unskilled, and not pretty to watch. Boxing, on the other hand, is an ancient and beautiful form of fighting.

The respect we have for boxers is at least partly a function of historical love for the game, but it's also a testimony to the honour-systems at play. Right now, MMA is a mess to watch and the inherent values carried within the "discipline"--a real stretch of the word--of MMA are unsophisticated... to jump on a man when he's down and then to rear-choke him into unconsciousness... that might be your bag, but I just find it distasteful. Similarly, I see nothing graceful about lumbering into another man's knees in order to tackle them to the ground. Don't get me wrong, I like to watch UFC sometimes but I have to be in a nihilistic, bloodthirsty sort of mood. There doesn't seem to be much honour in MMA: one slip and your opponent is apparently obliged to jump in with elbows. That's not sport. That's sacrificial.

TL;DR - MMA is a young sport, and not really even a sport

Exactly, and the main reason for this is that MMA doesn't attract top caliber talent yet. If you asked 95% of MMA athletes performing today, I guarantee you that all but a few had other aspirations besides MMA. Jon Bones earned his moniker because his frame was deemed too fragile for American Football and McGregor is a failed footballer/plumber who was somehow able to climb all the way up to the top of the sport. Not top level athlete would be dumb enough to participate in a sport as unrewarding and punishing as MMA.

[BillyBoxing]

A 70 year old Toney cashing in on an MMA opportunity is somehow a strike against 'boxing snobs'? Sorry, but this thread is what you call a "swing and a miss".

You're the one actually missing the point.

It's not about Toney being competitive himself in the octagon, it was not a fair fight since it was a MMA fight and Toney never was an MMA fighter.

Couture was old himself, it's about Couture and the MMA rules bringing the quit out of Toney.