So much of McTapout and bashing MMA but...

[BillyBoxing]

Tony was shot,100 yrs and just looking for a easy payday.he got 500k for that fight

Too bad Couture was 5 years older and shot as fck himself.

[BillyBoxing]

Exactly, and the main reason for this is that MMA doesn't attract top caliber talent yet. If you asked 95% of MMA athletes performing today, I guarantee you that all but a few had other aspirations besides MMA. Jon Bones earned his moniker because his frame was deemed too fragile for American Football and McGregor is a failed footballer/plumber who was somehow able to climb all the way up to the top of the sport. Not top level athlete would be dumb enough to participate in a sport as unrewarding and punishing as MMA.

That's actually untrue and I hope you realize you talk about things you don't know, I just found for you a list of olympians (judo and wrestling) who competed in MMA:

Ben Askren, wrestling, 2008, 7th, Bellator, 14-0-0
Bartłomiej Bartnicki, wrestling, 2004/2008, 11th/12th, 2 small promotions, 2-0-0
Nestoras Batzelas, wrestling, 2004, 13th, small promotions mainly in Greece, 1-2-0
Eddy Bengtsson, wrestling, 2000/2004, 10th/12th, several small promotions, 6-4-0
Arjan Bhullar, wrestling, 2012, 13th, BFL, 1-0-0
Henry Cejudo, wrestling, 2008, gold, UFC, 7-0-0
Mark Coleman, wrestling, 1992, 7th, UFC/PRIDE, 16-10-0
Daniel Cormier, wrestling, 2004, 4th place, UFC, 15-1-0
Rhadi Ferguson, judo, 2004, ?, Strikeforce Challengers, 3-0-0
Karam Ibrahim Gaber, wrestling, 2004/2012, gold/silver, K-1, 0-1-0
Rulon Gardner, wrestling, 2000/2004, gold/bronze, PRIDE, 1-0-0
Matt Ghaffari, wrestling, 1996, silver, UFO. 0-1-0
Svetlana Goundarenko, judo, 1992/1996, 7th/5th, small promotions in Japan, 6-2-0
Rick Hawn, judo, 2004, 9th, Bellator, 19-4-0
Todd Hays, 2-men & 4-men bobsleigh, 2002/2006, 4th&silver/7th&7th, VTJ, 1-0-0
Dan Henderson, wrestling, 1992/1996, 10th/12th, UFC/PRIDE, 30-12-0
Satoshi Ishii, judo, 2008, gold, IGF, 12-4-1
Hiroshi Izumi, judo, 2004, silver, World Victory Road/Dream/Dynamite!!, 4-2-0
Kevin Jackson, wrestling, 1992, gold, UFC, 4-2-0
Antoine Jaoude, wrestling, 2004, 20th, IFL, 8-3-0
Bu-Kyung Jung, judo, 2000, silver, Dream, 0-4-0
Aleksandr Karelin, wrestling, 1988/1992/1996/2000, gold/gold/gold/silver, RINGS*, 1-0-0
Dan Kelly, judo, 2000/2004/2008/2012, 9th/7th/20th/17th, UFC, 8-0-0
Min-soo Kim, judo, 1996, silver, K-1/HERO'S, 3-7-0
Cary Kolat, wrestling, 2000, 9th, SportFight, 0-1-0
Alexey Krupnyakov, wrestling, 2004/2008, 15th/16th, ProFC, 5-0-0
Eldar Kurtanidze, wrestling, 1996/2000, bronze/bronze, PRIDE, 0-1-0
Matt Lindland, wrestling, 2000, silver, UFC, 22-9-0
Hector Lombard, judo, 2000, ?, PRIDE/Bellator/UFC, 34-4-1 (1)
Mark Overgaard Madsen, wrestling, 2008/2012, 19th/5th, EMMA, 2-0-0
Istvan Majoros, wrestling, 2004, gold, K-1, 0-1-0
Sara McMann, wrestling, 2004, silver, UFC, 8-1-0
Ray Mercer, boxing, 1988, gold, Adrenaline MMA, 1-0-0
Randi Miller, wrestling, 2008, bronze, Invicta, 1-0-0
Kazuyuki Miyata, wrestling, 2000, 13th, K-1, 14-9-0
Steve Mocco, wrestling, 2008, 7th, WSOF, 4-1-0
Kenny Monday, wrestling, 1988/1992/1996, gold/silver/6th, Extreme Fighting, 1-0-0
Katsuhiko Nagata, wrestling, 2000, silver, K-1 Hero's/Dream, 6-7-3
Pawel Nastula, judo, 1996, gold, PRIDE, 5-6-0
Naoya Ogawa, judo, 1992, silver, PRIDE, 7-2-0
Yoel Romero, wrestling, 2000/2004, silver/4th, UFC, 9-1-0
Ronda Rousey, judo, 2008, bronze, UFC, 10-0-0
Townsend Saunders, wrestling, 1992.1996 7th/silver, UFC, 2-0-0
Mark Schultz, wrestling, 1984, gold, UFC, 1-1-0

[nubianpiye]

MMA is **** and for bum fighters who can't box it's not even a sport that's why all these ****s always say 'in a street fight' it's just a tough man competition

[BillyBoxing]

As others have pointed out - Toney was old, shot, and a punch drunk, fat tube of lard looking for a paycheck.

I have no problem with McG, he's good at what he does, MMA, but he's not a professional boxer. The commission should have never allowed this contest to commence because it damaged the integrity of the sport.

Mayweather boxing a UFC novice.............what a dork, smfh.

Couture was older by 5 years as I said and had been stopped in fights (unlike Toney).

And it's not about losing, it's about QUITTING.

Toney was a proud man and still had his pride, never stopped in boxing.

MMA chokes are so rough that he did quit, that's all I mean.
So much about calling MMA fighters quitters and tappers when in reality most boxers would do the same in those situations.

[KingHippo]

That's actually untrue and I hope you realize you talk about things you don't know, I just found for you a list of olympians (judo and wrestling) who competed in MMA:

Ben Askren, wrestling, 2008, 7th, Bellator, 14-0-0
Bartłomiej Bartnicki, wrestling, 2004/2008, 11th/12th, 2 small promotions, 2-0-0
Nestoras Batzelas, wrestling, 2004, 13th, small promotions mainly in Greece, 1-2-0
Eddy Bengtsson, wrestling, 2000/2004, 10th/12th, several small promotions, 6-4-0
Arjan Bhullar, wrestling, 2012, 13th, BFL, 1-0-0
Henry Cejudo, wrestling, 2008, gold, UFC, 7-0-0
Mark Coleman, wrestling, 1992, 7th, UFC/PRIDE, 16-10-0
Daniel Cormier, wrestling, 2004, 4th place, UFC, 15-1-0
Rhadi Ferguson, judo, 2004, ?, Strikeforce Challengers, 3-0-0
Karam Ibrahim Gaber, wrestling, 2004/2012, gold/silver, K-1, 0-1-0
Rulon Gardner, wrestling, 2000/2004, gold/bronze, PRIDE, 1-0-0
Matt Ghaffari, wrestling, 1996, silver, UFO. 0-1-0
Svetlana Goundarenko, judo, 1992/1996, 7th/5th, small promotions in Japan, 6-2-0
Rick Hawn, judo, 2004, 9th, Bellator, 19-4-0
Todd Hays, 2-men & 4-men bobsleigh, 2002/2006, 4th&silver/7th&7th, VTJ, 1-0-0
Dan Henderson, wrestling, 1992/1996, 10th/12th, UFC/PRIDE, 30-12-0
Satoshi Ishii, judo, 2008, gold, IGF, 12-4-1
Hiroshi Izumi, judo, 2004, silver, World Victory Road/Dream/Dynamite!!, 4-2-0
Kevin Jackson, wrestling, 1992, gold, UFC, 4-2-0
Antoine Jaoude, wrestling, 2004, 20th, IFL, 8-3-0
Bu-Kyung Jung, judo, 2000, silver, Dream, 0-4-0
Aleksandr Karelin, wrestling, 1988/1992/1996/2000, gold/gold/gold/silver, RINGS*, 1-0-0
Dan Kelly, judo, 2000/2004/2008/2012, 9th/7th/20th/17th, UFC, 8-0-0
Min-soo Kim, judo, 1996, silver, K-1/HERO'S, 3-7-0
Cary Kolat, wrestling, 2000, 9th, SportFight, 0-1-0
Alexey Krupnyakov, wrestling, 2004/2008, 15th/16th, ProFC, 5-0-0
Eldar Kurtanidze, wrestling, 1996/2000, bronze/bronze, PRIDE, 0-1-0
Matt Lindland, wrestling, 2000, silver, UFC, 22-9-0
Hector Lombard, judo, 2000, ?, PRIDE/Bellator/UFC, 34-4-1 (1)
Mark Overgaard Madsen, wrestling, 2008/2012, 19th/5th, EMMA, 2-0-0
Istvan Majoros, wrestling, 2004, gold, K-1, 0-1-0
Sara McMann, wrestling, 2004, silver, UFC, 8-1-0
Ray Mercer, boxing, 1988, gold, Adrenaline MMA, 1-0-0
Randi Miller, wrestling, 2008, bronze, Invicta, 1-0-0
Kazuyuki Miyata, wrestling, 2000, 13th, K-1, 14-9-0
Steve Mocco, wrestling, 2008, 7th, WSOF, 4-1-0
Kenny Monday, wrestling, 1988/1992/1996, gold/silver/6th, Extreme Fighting, 1-0-0
Katsuhiko Nagata, wrestling, 2000, silver, K-1 Hero's/Dream, 6-7-3
Pawel Nastula, judo, 1996, gold, PRIDE, 5-6-0
Naoya Ogawa, judo, 1992, silver, PRIDE, 7-2-0
Yoel Romero, wrestling, 2000/2004, silver/4th, UFC, 9-1-0
Ronda Rousey, judo, 2008, bronze, UFC, 10-0-0
Townsend Saunders, wrestling, 1992.1996 7th/silver, UFC, 2-0-0
Mark Schultz, wrestling, 1984, gold, UFC, 1-1-0

If any of these people were top level athletes, I guarantee you they would've pursued sports that are more lucrative than wrestling or judo.

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

That's actually untrue and I hope you realize you talk about things you don't know, I just found for you a list of olympians (judo and wrestling) who competed in MMA:

Ben Askren, wrestling, 2008, 7th, Bellator, 14-0-0
Bartłomiej Bartnicki, wrestling, 2004/2008, 11th/12th, 2 small promotions, 2-0-0
Nestoras Batzelas, wrestling, 2004, 13th, small promotions mainly in Greece, 1-2-0
Eddy Bengtsson, wrestling, 2000/2004, 10th/12th, several small promotions, 6-4-0
Arjan Bhullar, wrestling, 2012, 13th, BFL, 1-0-0
Henry Cejudo, wrestling, 2008, gold, UFC, 7-0-0
Mark Coleman, wrestling, 1992, 7th, UFC/PRIDE, 16-10-0
Daniel Cormier, wrestling, 2004, 4th place, UFC, 15-1-0
Rhadi Ferguson, judo, 2004, ?, Strikeforce Challengers, 3-0-0
Karam Ibrahim Gaber, wrestling, 2004/2012, gold/silver, K-1, 0-1-0
Rulon Gardner, wrestling, 2000/2004, gold/bronze, PRIDE, 1-0-0
Matt Ghaffari, wrestling, 1996, silver, UFO. 0-1-0
Svetlana Goundarenko, judo, 1992/1996, 7th/5th, small promotions in Japan, 6-2-0
Rick Hawn, judo, 2004, 9th, Bellator, 19-4-0
Todd Hays, 2-men & 4-men bobsleigh, 2002/2006, 4th&silver/7th&7th, VTJ, 1-0-0
Dan Henderson, wrestling, 1992/1996, 10th/12th, UFC/PRIDE, 30-12-0
Satoshi Ishii, judo, 2008, gold, IGF, 12-4-1
Hiroshi Izumi, judo, 2004, silver, World Victory Road/Dream/Dynamite!!, 4-2-0
Kevin Jackson, wrestling, 1992, gold, UFC, 4-2-0
Antoine Jaoude, wrestling, 2004, 20th, IFL, 8-3-0
Bu-Kyung Jung, judo, 2000, silver, Dream, 0-4-0
Aleksandr Karelin, wrestling, 1988/1992/1996/2000, gold/gold/gold/silver, RINGS*, 1-0-0
Dan Kelly, judo, 2000/2004/2008/2012, 9th/7th/20th/17th, UFC, 8-0-0
Min-soo Kim, judo, 1996, silver, K-1/HERO'S, 3-7-0
Cary Kolat, wrestling, 2000, 9th, SportFight, 0-1-0
Alexey Krupnyakov, wrestling, 2004/2008, 15th/16th, ProFC, 5-0-0
Eldar Kurtanidze, wrestling, 1996/2000, bronze/bronze, PRIDE, 0-1-0
Matt Lindland, wrestling, 2000, silver, UFC, 22-9-0
Hector Lombard, judo, 2000, ?, PRIDE/Bellator/UFC, 34-4-1 (1)
Mark Overgaard Madsen, wrestling, 2008/2012, 19th/5th, EMMA, 2-0-0
Istvan Majoros, wrestling, 2004, gold, K-1, 0-1-0
Sara McMann, wrestling, 2004, silver, UFC, 8-1-0
Ray Mercer, boxing, 1988, gold, Adrenaline MMA, 1-0-0
Randi Miller, wrestling, 2008, bronze, Invicta, 1-0-0
Kazuyuki Miyata, wrestling, 2000, 13th, K-1, 14-9-0
Steve Mocco, wrestling, 2008, 7th, WSOF, 4-1-0
Kenny Monday, wrestling, 1988/1992/1996, gold/silver/6th, Extreme Fighting, 1-0-0
Katsuhiko Nagata, wrestling, 2000, silver, K-1 Hero's/Dream, 6-7-3
Pawel Nastula, judo, 1996, gold, PRIDE, 5-6-0
Naoya Ogawa, judo, 1992, silver, PRIDE, 7-2-0
Yoel Romero, wrestling, 2000/2004, silver/4th, UFC, 9-1-0
Ronda Rousey, judo, 2008, bronze, UFC, 10-0-0
Townsend Saunders, wrestling, 1992.1996 7th/silver, UFC, 2-0-0
Mark Schultz, wrestling, 1984, gold, UFC, 1-1-0

Kurt Angle, wrestling, 1996, gold

[BillyBoxing]

MMA is **** and for bum fighters who can't box it's not even a sport that's why all these ****s always say 'in a street fight' it's just a tough man competition

The main basis is wrestling/and or grappling so who cares if the man can or can't box.

Obviously MMA fighters can't play basketball too.

MMA is for the best competitors in combat sports, they all come from judo, wrestling of kick boxing.

MMA is not a sport as you said but rules where all fighting styles can match up.

[nubianpiye]

The main basis is wrestling/and or grappling so who cares if the man can or can't box.

Obviously MMA fighters can't play basketball too.

MMA is for the best competitors in combat sports, they all come from judo, wrestling of kick boxing.

MMA is not a sport as you said but rules where all fighting styles can match up.

MMA is bull**** buddy it's a joke it's for rednecks and hillbillies and cowards. If you care so much f uck off to sherdog

[BillyBoxing]

If any of these people were top level athletes, I guarantee you they would've pursued sports that are more lucrative than wrestling or judo.

That's a very narrow minded comment and just guarantee why your a red k poster lol

It doesn't work this way outside of the USA.

Judo and Wrestling are more practiced sports than boxing or baseball in the wolrd.

Wrestling and Judo are very competitive sports wolrldwide.

if they are bums, then I'm waiting for Gaybron or an NFL idiot to enter the octagon and whip those bums.

[nubianpiye]

That's a very narrow minded comment and just guarantee why your a red k poster lol

It doesn't work this way outside of the USA.

Judo and Wrestling are more practiced sports than boxing or baseball in the wolrd.

Wrestling and Judo are very competitive sports wolrldwide.

if they are bums, then I'm waiting for Gaybron or an NFL idiot to enter the octagon and whip those bums.

No they aren't thats bull****.