The size difference is even more dramatic than I thought. GGG is stopping him. I'm near 100% on this.
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Wtf is big drama show what kinda fob azz sht is that . It sounds dumb
His fights never had drama cuz the opponents were bums so i dont knoe where this big drama shoe csme from.
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Originally posted by angkag View PostI've always liked Canelo, and GGG. Much has been said of GGG's level of opposition, but we know they were generally all MWs (Brook exception) and GGG has knocked them all out except Jacobs, and I suspect that was more to do with Jacobs than GGG.
So took a closer look at Canelo's record for the first time, and kind of ended up with a 'hmmmmm'.
Since 2013:
Trout: A lot of people thought it was close, but I really felt Canelo came into his own in this fight and showed some good skills. Conclusion, good win (imo), but fact was many weren't too convinced. Most had it 1 or 2 pts for Canelo.
Mayweather: Lost, Fair enough, so did everyone else, and ignoring the one dodgy scorecard, Mayweather did it with ease.
2014:
Angulo: Angulo slow as molasses by the time of this fight, easy fight.
Lara: I think I saw a poll of 89 boxing writers where it was even, an equal number scored it for Lara, Canelo, Draw. Whatever, not a clear win for Canelo.
2015:
Kirkland: An impressive win. However, Kirkland coming off 18 months inactivity and also minus Wolfe. So was a really an impressive win vs a top opponent ? Don't think so.
Cotto: Cotto started to be written off in 2012, but was carefully managed to seem better than he was after that (Delvin, a gimp Martinez that anyone would have beaten, and draining Geale to 157). Fair win for Canelo (imo), but Cotto made him work for it even though 3 years after initially being written off and now 35. So was that really so impressive from Canelo ?
2016:
Khan: Khan couldn't hurt him, had a glass jaw, predictable outcome.
Smith: Again, not an elite opponent.
JCC: Just a punching bag at 164.5. Hardly threw anything.
So how elite is Canelo really ? He walks through opponents who aren't on their A game for whatever reason, and struggles with those who are on their A game.
He dominated Chavez while Golovkin had a hard time with Jacobs. Flip that for a second - what would have been the likely outcome if Golovkin had fought Chavez and Canelo fought Jacobs ? Would our perceptions coming into this fight be different.
I wonder if I've been over-estimating just how good Canelo is. Almost all of his performances have that 'yeah but....' after them. You can say the same with Golovkin, but then its 'yeah but he ktfo'ed them, what else could he do ?', ie no prisoners, while Canelo either lost or was taken close by the 3 live opponents he fought, all of whom were under 160 (again, I was a Cotto fan too and after 2012 I knew he wasn't 100% any more, so I never saw him as a live dog).
More doubts. I wonder....
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One thing that we do know for sure is that Golovkin has faced strong power punchers like Jacobs, Lemieux, and Stevens.. Alvarez had the opportunity to face Jermall Charlo before he moved up to middleweight but instead he faced a Green paper champ Liam Smith,, we'll see what happens when he takes his first Power Punch by a true MW.
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Originally posted by Butch.McRae View PostThe size difference is even more dramatic than I thought. GGG is stopping him. I'm near 100% on this.
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