PBC = Part-time Boxing Champions

[rickJen]

what, and you think PBC is any different???

With all the dates/money Haymon blew threw in the past 3 years, please tell me ONE FIGHT where a non-PBC fighter was in a main event against a PBC fighter? And Im not talking about any mandos, Im talking about a premium fight that Haymon made between his guy and a non-PBC fighter on a PBC card.

Just one.

Hint: You cant, because there isnt one. Haymon NEVER gives up tv spots to non-PBC fighters unless its a mando

Haymon can't even make his top fighters fight each other let alone make them fight a non-PBC fighter.
Lara is fighting Gausha, instead of Williams, Charlo or Andrade.

[GMAN SUPREME]

SPence is fighting in Dec.

you have a source for that?

[IMDAZED]

you have a source for that?

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[GMAN SUPREME]

I think Spence is the world's best welterweight and I hope he gets the chance to prove it sooner rather than later. I think he wants to fight the best but the best don't want to fight him. This doesn't have much to do with the topic but I just like to brag on Spence.

than spence should move up. its better than waiting around fighting once a year against a bum.

[GMAN SUPREME]

Any confirmation to the Danny Garcia vs Rios rumor?
Can this be considered a tuneup for the Gift?

nope. I think its bs. danny is another of those fights once a year fighters.

[rickJen]

nope. I think its bs. danny is another of those fights once a year fighters.

Everybody loves to have a piece of Danny.
The guy can't run out of fights if he wants it anytime.
Brook called him out, Spence, Porter, Vargas, Crawford, etc.
Khan, Herrera, Matthysse wanted their rematches. Probably even retired Morales wanted his trilogy.
Garcia is in huge demand.
But he's probably contemplating retirement.

[rickJen]

than spence should move up. its better than waiting around fighting once a year against a bum.

154 is worse if he moves up. Top fighters don't even fight each other.
He'll have to move up 2 divisions and fight in Europe.
There'll be big guys who will be willing to fight him there.

[rickJen]

Do you see anyone or any network that might want to find a solution to this part-timing problems?
I don't see Espinoza doing something about it.
Which is strange because Showtime's majority of subscribers are boxing fans, which is in stark contrast with HBO.
I mean why would you sign for a subscription when you rarely see the top fighters fighting? It won't make sense.
Forget that they're not fighting each other. It's even worse seeing them fight seldom.

[asgarth]

Some fighters do have their 2 fights a year, but another problem with PBC is that for most of their fighters you dont know who they will face until they announce it around 6 weeks before the fight.

One fight doesnt lead to another and there is no real chatter about negotiations or whatever until the fight is already signed.

Take a look at the p4p list in boxrec:

Alvarez fought Khan and you already knew immediately that he is probably going to fight Golovkin.
Lomachenko fought 1 month ago and you already know that he is fighting against Rigondeaux.
Joshuas path is also mapped out with Kubrev, Wilder/Ortiz winner and Parker.

Now onto the PBC fighter.

Thurman is out with an injury, unfortunately.
Cruz fights Frampton, was supposed to fight Mares and now fights a meaniningless tuneup.
Stevenson is Stevenson, hopefully Alvarez is able to force his hands after being the longtime mandatory
Danny Garcia promotes his weird midget twin sisters, doesnt seem to be interested to continue his boxing career.
Lara fights his second subpar opponent in a row and
Spence has a great win and is now reduced to fight streetfights lol.
Gary Russell Jr...... doesnt care about his career
Porter was supposed to fight against Dulorme after Porter, had a family loss and we wont see him until 2018.
Jermall Charlo waits for a GGG mandatory or the vacant WBC
Daniel Jacobs had a good outing against Golovkin, supposed to fight in 6 weeks, but his opponent is still TBA. Probably Rosado lol.
Robert Easter Jr. had a good win against Shafikov, but the guy is delegated to be Mr. Bounce TV, so cant see much happening with him.

[rickJen]

Some fighters do have their 2 fights a year, but another problem with PBC is that for most of their fighters you dont know who they will face until they announce it around 6 weeks before the fight.

I for one prefer not to know any detail about what's going on behind the scenes.
Fans just want to see fights happen. They hardly care.
But when things are going slow fans can't help but wonder what's going on.
With TR, GBP, HBO, even promoters in the UK some info usually come out here and there.
With PBC and Showtime it's always a mystery.