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  • redmish
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    #11
    Good article. I agree that the sanctioning bodies should work together so we can have more unified champions, but we still need mandatory defences. Just because you don't have a big name or you haven't held a world title in the past shouldn't mean you dont get a shot. There has to be a better balance and more understanding, especially from the IBF.

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    • harry-greb
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      #12
      Originally posted by 1hourRun
      I personally find this article insulting to the American UNDISPUTED lineal champion Terance Crawford to have a picture of Anthony Joshua in the header as the article begins with BUD as the prime example to the point that the writer is trying to make:

      Also Terence Crawford shouldnt even been used in this crap article titled ' Sanctioned Champion ' he is UNDISPUTED! LINEAL!!! the article instead should read as follows : Anthony Joshua ' Paper Champion '.

      Pure trash and a waste of time, the hardcore dont care for paper champions and are not worried about belts we know who the man is without any organization shinning a little trinket in my face to convince me on who is the real champion of the world in their respective weights!!! **** off!
      Spot on, mate.

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      • Shadoww702
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        #13
        Wasn't it the IBF who also stripped Fury??? And wasn't that in 10 days after his fight as well???

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        • cameltoe
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          #14
          Originally posted by 1hourRun
          You are clueless to how lineage works in boxing so I am wasting my time having a dialog with a cretin such as yourself.

          Your kind is the reason Eddie Hearns sells out Wembley, a simpleton gullible baboon like the writer of this article! go to the lounge you have no business here.
          Are you saying I'm wrong?

          I'm pretty sure that's what happened. In fact I'm certain.

          You're clinging to that WBC belt like it gives Wilder some kind of credit over AJ when you know full well Wilder is a bum, and couldn't even bring himself to fight Whyte.

          My point is, the WBC title means nothing in this instance. Especially since Wilder had to do very little to win it.

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          • Shadoww702
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            #15
            The WBC having Stiverne as the Mandatory is FKN TERRIBLE. No one wants to see a rematch of that lop sided beatdown Wilder put on him. No networks, fan, no one but the WBC.

            Stiverne has only 1 win after Wilder and that was against Derrick Rossy almost TWO years ago....

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            • Tom Cruise
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              #16
              It really baffling how it has gotten to this point.

              The writer didnt talk specifically about it in the article, but the rankings these orgs produce are ****ing atrocious. No problem with IBF sticking to their rules (although i think some of those rules need changing) but how have they ended up with Lipinets as mando? Or Glazcov at HW? What have these guys done to deserve a crack at their champion other than deliver a few unmarked brown envolopes to the right suits?

              Frustrating that they have so much sway over the sport still when everyone knows what a bunch of incompetent, corrupt parasites they are.

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #17
                Am I just being dense? Lipinets was IBF mando and is entitled to his title shot isn't he? Why should they give Crawford special rights to bypass his mando - surely that removes any credibility they do have. In my mind pretty much the only useful purpose the sanctioning orgs serve is periodically making champions face their mandatories, thus allowing new talent the opportunities at success rather than allowing champions to simply choose every fight to maximise reward whilst keeping the risks as slim as possible. What is the point of the sanctioning orgs if they don't make guys defend their strap?

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                • cameltoe
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun
                  You are clueless to how lineage works in boxing so I am wasting my time having a dialog with a cretin such as yourself.

                  Your kind is the reason Eddie Hearns sells out Wembley, a simpleton gullible baboon like the writer of this article! go to the lounge you have no business here.
                  I know Wilder isn't the lineal champ.

                  So I don't really get your argument. Or the point of your original post.

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                  • KillaCamNZ
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Sanctioning bodies are nothing but a business, like Delta, Best Buy, McDonald's, but only that they're private, that's the only difference. They're not for the good of the people/boxers or to advance boxing.
                    Yep, this sums it up.

                    Anytime people talk about "doing it for the good of boxing" or "doing it for the fans", they need to be reminded that these alphabet orgs aren't in it for the good of the sport or you and I - they are purely about the money. It's business.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SteveM
                      IBF are a terrible org. "Oh but they enforce their mandatories" a few people say but the fact is they often have poor ranking lists and they allow Lipinets promoter to pull stunts like they did this past week. Didn't they get Fury stripped first? They also served up Wade for Golovkin which was a waste of a fight
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702
                      Wasn't it the IBF who also stripped Fury??? And wasn't that in 10 days after his fight as well???
                      It was the IBF who stripped Fury. It happened because Glazkov's promoter, Kathy Duva, refused to negotiate and asked for an immediate purse bid, which Fury couldn't do because of his rematch clause with Wlad.

                      Lipinets promoter also refused to negotiate and called for an immediate purse bid. I don't know if that was why Crawford vacated, maybe he had already decided to move up to 147.

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