The key to Canelo/GGG will be the pace.

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  • daggum
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    #31
    stop creating self fulfilling prophecies. the person who deserves to win will be the person landing the cleaner punches. slow pace or not. dont do the same thing you did in floyd-pac and give it to floyd simply because it was boring while ignoring who was landing the cleaner punches.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Mammoth
      Huh.....????
      Did you see Cotto hurt at all?

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      • Mammoth
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        #33
        Originally posted by _original_
        Did you see Cotto hurt at all?
        Nope but I saw Canelo was the aggressor in that one...

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          #34
          Originally posted by daggum
          stop creating self fulfilling prophecies. the person who deserves to win will be the person landing the cleaner punches. slow pace or not. dont do the same thing you did in floyd-pac and give it to floyd simply because it was boring while ignoring who was landing the cleaner punches.
          You're assuming a lot here and creating false narratives. Obviously it's still all about landing punches but these two guys fight in different paces. Ring generalship and pace are a very important part of boxing.

          This fight has nothing to do with Pacquiao/Mayweather, let that fight go already and expand your knowledge with the hundreds of other fights that have happened since then.

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          • redmish
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            #35
            Originally posted by eco1
            What power? Let's get real. He can hit all the Khans in the world and the washed up fighters.

            He doesn't really move well, so I think Glolovkin won't have to chase him too much loosing strength and stamina in the process.

            Can Canelo take Golovkin's punches? I don't think so.

            One shot to the liver and Canelo will go down around the 7-8. If he lasts so long.


            Not seeing it.
            I think your underestimating canelo to be fair. He has solid power and excellent counter punches but ultimately I agree about the outcome. Looking forward to it.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              Nope but I saw Canelo was the aggressor in that one...

              I was arguing power, it was surprising to me for Canelo to not hurt the smaller and older Cotto at all. A guy who had been rocked even back in his 140 pound days. Canelo looked good but he never had Cotto in trouble who came forward all night.

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                #37
                Originally posted by _original_
                You're assuming a lot here and creating false narratives. Obviously it's still all about landing punches but these two guys fight in different paces. Ring generalship and pace are a very important part of boxing.

                This fight has nothing to do with Pacquiao/Mayweather, let that fight go already and expand your knowledge with the hundreds of other fights that have happened since then.
                if we cant learn from our mistakes we are doomed to repeat them. punches are certainly more important than subjective things like ring generalship. there is nothing subjective about landing a clean flush punch that knocks your opponents head back. what is subjective is saying who is in control of the fight. for me its quite simple. if you are landing the cleaner flusher punches you are in control. i dont let my bias lead me. you can twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why one guy is winning when the other guy is landing the cleaner flusher punches but that wont make it right. you still got to put in the work and when you dont, you dont deserve to win simply because you are doing things that on paper would be to your advantage but in reality...they arent.

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                • iamboxing
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                  #38
                  Ultimately, this fight boils down to if Canelo can take GGG's punches. I don't think he can. I don't even think he has enough ring smarts to avoid the pressure GGG will put on him. He'll look confused, hurt and hopeless by the middle rounds.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by redmish
                    I think your underestimating canelo to be fair. He has solid power and excellent counter punches but ultimately I agree about the outcome. Looking forward to it.
                    Golovkin has:

                    1.Better Ring IQ. Some casuals don't see it.
                    2.The percentage radio between he getting hit and him hitting the opponent is great.
                    3.I think his stamina is better than Canelo's
                    4.More proven power.
                    5. Great Jab if he needs it. While I think he will use it, that will not be his winning ticket. I think a shot to the liver will be his weapon to win.

                    I do not see Canelo going the distance.

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