Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Rips Adonis Stevenson For Failing To Unify in Past

[kafkod]

pay attention, and you will learn something.....

firstly.....

FACT: the contracted weight for the Cotto fight was 155

FACT: I have no idea what the contracted weight was for the Khan fight..... because..... who fkn cares, we are talking about Amir Khan

if you think that anyone is participating in a genuine middleweight bout by facing Amir Khan, then you should not be here..... and if you are not referring to "genuine"..... then who fkn cares?

and btw, Canelo said this.....

" I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez told a group of reporters recently. “I’m a super welterweight. That’s my weight class. However, I wanted to fight this fight [against Khan] for some sort of title "

now that we have that cleared up, let's address your other whine..... I mean, "concern"

edit:
FACT: the contracted weight for the Khan fight was 155

I just checked

you are talking shht, again





when Canelo was campaigning at JMW, he fought at 155 for the exact same reason why he fought at 150 when he was campaigning at welter

Reynoso has explained why on many occasions, and so have I

at welter, Reynoso explained that they fought at 150 in order to extend Saul's career. Their rationale was..... 147 was difficult to make, so Canelo will fight at 150 unless it happens to be a big (I assume, title) fight..... and guess what, they did the exact same thing at 155 when Canelo moved up to JMW

once again, for the record..... Team Canelo stated that they are giving him an extra pound in order to preserve Saul's career

personally, I find that lame as fk

so what if it is " difficult " to make weight..... it is difficult for the other guy as well, and making weight is the leveller in boxing

Canelo did not drain his JMW opponents, so folks need to get a grip..... but he did give himself an extra pound that may have benefitted him more than it benefited his JMW opponents

as I said, that was lame and unprofessional in my book..... no idea why Canelo did not cop more flak for that b1tch-move..... at 155 it may not be such a big deal, but at welter that was pretty damn lame

which means that you get some homework, like you gave me

1) why were you completely unaware that Canelo had many more than 4 catchweight fights if you include his 150 campaign?

2) why did nobody (including you, obviously) mention a damn thing about his 150 campaign.....?

oh right, I forgot..... the Golovkin Protection Squad had no interest in Canelo at that point in time..... so it wasn't a problem LOL

Question for you ... was Canelo defending a sanctioned world title at 150lbs and insisting that challengers - including mandatory challengers - came in at the same weight?

If he was, that was wrong. The fact that I didn't know about it is completely and utterly irrelevant.

I'm talking about the official sanctioned weights for championship fights - not contracted weights.

Sanctioned weight is the weight recognised by the sanctioning organisation and listed in all official boxing records.

Contracted weights are a separate, private arrangement between two fighters and their teams.

The sanctioned weights for Canelo vs Cotto and Canelo vs Khan were 160lbs and 160lbs, because they were both middleweight title fights.

You know that, of course, but Golovkin hating has become a religion to you, and one of the tenets of your faith is that Canelo Alvarez, the former WBC and current reigning Ring and lineal middleweight champion of the world, is not a middleweight and has never fought in the middleweight division.

You need to get a grip mate. You're like some crazy fundamentalist ****** insisting that Muhammed literally split the moon in two. Or a fanatical Catholic swearing blind that bread and water are literally transformed into the flesh and blood of Christ during Holy Sacrament.

[aboutfkntime]

Question for you ... was Canelo defending a sanctioned world title at 150lbs and insisting that challengers - including mandatory challengers - came in at the same weight?

If he was, that was wrong. The fact that I didn't know about it is completely and utterly irrelevant.

..... you were not aware of that fact because you - along with the other b1tches who belong to the Golovkin Protection Squad - had no real interest in Canelo at that point in time LMAO

..... now you can update your whine-material with those cold hard facts about Canelo's escapades at 150

..... and now that you understand the rationale behind 155, don't you feel dumb as a rock for siding with the other muppets who also campaigned long and loud that Canelo was a middleweight because he fought at 155?..... because you should

that was dumb as a rock

their explanation for 155 is all on public record..... and 12-18 months after you guys started that nonsense, Canelo won a JMW title at 154

DUMB as a rock !!

I'm talking about the official sanctioned weights for championship fights - not contracted weights.

Sanctioned weight is the weight recognised by the sanctioning organisation and listed in all official boxing records.

Contracted weights are a separate, private arrangement between two fighters and their teams.

The sanctioned weights for Canelo vs Cotto and Canelo vs Khan were 160lbs and 160lbs, because they were both middleweight title fights.

You know that, of course, but Golovkin hating has become a religion to you, and one of the tenets of your faith is that [B][I]Canelo Alvarez, the former WBC and current reigning Ring and lineal middleweight champion of the world, is not a middleweight and has never fought in the middleweight division.

You need to get a grip mate. You're like some crazy fundamentalist ****** insisting that Muhammed literally split the moon in two. Or a fanatical Catholic swearing blind that bread and water are literally transformed into the flesh and blood of Christ during Holy Sacrament.

FACT: the contracted weight for Cotto/Khan was..... 155

Cotto weighed 153 and Khan was a welter, so stop your spin and bull****

FACT: Canelo has never fought A middleweight
FACT: Canelo has never fought AT middleweight

your technicalities are rubbish..... those fights were held at 155..... and besides never competing in a genuine middleweight contest, Canelo himself stated - and then proved - that he was a JMW when he made 154 and beat Liam Smith

your spin is nonsense kafkod


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[kafkod]

..... you were not aware of that fact because you - along with the other b1tches who belong to the Golovkin Protection Squad - had no real interest in Canelo at that point in time LMAO

..... now you can update your whine-material with those cold hard facts about Canelo's escapades at 150

..... and now that you understand the rationale behind 155, don't you feel dumb as a rock for siding with the other muppets who also campaigned long and loud that Canelo was a middleweight because he fought at 155?..... because you should

that was dumb as a rock

their explanation for 155 is all on public record..... and 12-18 months after you guys started that nonsense, Canelo won a JMW title at 154

DUMB as a rock !!





FACT: the contracted weight for Cotto/Khan was..... 155

Cotto weighed 153 and Khan was a welter, so stop your spin and bull****

FACT: Canelo has never fought A middleweight
FACT: Canelo has never fought AT middleweight

your technicalities are rubbish..... those fights were held at 155..... and besides never competing in a genuine middleweight contest, Canelo himself stated - and then proved - that he was a JMW when he made 154 and beat Liam Smith

your spin is nonsense kafkod


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Ok. So Canelo never defended a world title at a catchweight of 150lbs, which is why nobody ever complained about him doing it.

[etech1]

See, now you done gone way off topic.

Fact is, Ward criticizing Stevenson for not unifying the division while he himself is avoiding doing that exact same thing when the fight couldn't be more available than it right now.

That's an unbendable and unequivocal fact. The rest is all semantics.

Ward acting like a bish and a hypocrite, plain and simple.

An undeniable fact, is that Kov was rated higher then chickenson at LHW by the majority of the boxing world.

Ward stepped in and fought #1, and STOPPED THE best in the division, according to most of the boxing world. Wtf would he now go in reverse and fight #2.

Chickenson had YEARS to make moves and unify, but instead took the easy route, so it's his fault if he don't get the Ward fight.

Chickenson type fighters are whats wrong with boxing.

So to put it in a nut shell, Chickenson said NO to fighting Kov many times, and Ward said O yeah!

Chickenson was a vagina and Ward was a man. Why TF should the vag get Ward now????

I think the problem with your thinking is that you place too low of a value on fighters that actually step TF up and PROVE their metal!!

[TMTForever99]

An undeniable fact, is that Kov was rated higher then chickenson at LHW by the majority of the boxing world.

Ward stepped in and fought #1, and STOPPED THE best in the division, according to most of the boxing world. Wtf would he now go in reverse and fight #2.

Chickenson had YEARS to make moves and unify, but instead took the easy route, so it's his fault if he don't get the Ward fight.

Chickenson type fighters are whats wrong with boxing.

So to put it in a nut shell, Chickenson said NO to fighting Kov many times, and Ward said O yeah!

Chickenson was a vagina and Ward was a man. Why TF should the vag get Ward now????

I think the problem with your thinking is that you place too low of a value on fighters that actually step TF up and PROVE their metal!!

if ward doesn't fight the number 2 guy in the division then he should retire. what do you expect ward to fight the number 10 and 11 guy now..lmao you sound ******ed.

[My Low Place]

That's completely untrue, Hopkins did not avoid Stevenson to fight Kovalev. If he did, he was taking on the better fighter for doing so. We don't know the ins and outs of what happens behind the scenes we can only look at what's actually happening. As it stands Kovalev has been fighting names, Stevenson has not.

hopkins demanded 75% from stevenson
cloud took 40% from hopkins
dawson took 43% from hopkins

but adonis was only able to get 25% or bhop would not take the fight..

bhop complained that they said his purse changed bc adonis refused 25%

of course it's going to change u old clown u're going to canada bc u're the bside u're not getting 75%...

thenhe ran to hbo with golden body to give kovalev 35%

and stevenson's was way bigger than kov at the tim and he did 1.3 million views on hbo while bhop did well under 1 million on showtme...

make sense of this

[Sledgeweather17]

An undeniable fact, is that Kov was rated higher then chickenson at LHW by the majority of the boxing world.

Ward stepped in and fought #1, and STOPPED THE best in the division, according to most of the boxing world. Wtf would he now go in reverse and fight #2.

Chickenson had YEARS to make moves and unify, but instead took the easy route, so it's his fault if he don't get the Ward fight.

Chickenson type fighters are whats wrong with boxing.

So to put it in a nut shell, Chickenson said NO to fighting Kov many times, and Ward said O yeah!

Chickenson was a vagina and Ward was a man. Why TF should the vag get Ward now????

I think the problem with your thinking is that you place too low of a value on fighters that actually step TF up and PROVE their metal!!

Interesting how you ignore the fact that Kovalev pulled out of a purse bid to avoid Stevenson.

Don't let me catch you telling me about Duva tryna negotiate either, any idiot that reads any of her comments can see through those bullshieet lies. Duva doesn't negotiate, she makes ridiculous take it or leave it offers and then when the other side obviously doesn't agree to that crap she runs to the media to paint the other side before they can defend themselves.

Purse bid would have solved all that shieet but she went and pulled out, then guess what, she ran straight to the media to make it look like she is the victim.

In any case, defaq ma letting you drag me into this shieet in the first place.

This is 2017, and Kovalev aint no champion no more, he's a nobody.

Stevenson is the lineal and wbc champ, and Ward is ducking him.

That's what happening now irrespective of what happened in the past.

I'm pretty sure neither you nor I have a time traveling machine so **** off with that shieet about the past.

Stevenson is the biggest name and most dangerous fighter Ward can fight NOW. That is the biggest fight at LHW and it ends all debates about who the best in the weight is.

If you so confident in your boy and if you were a real boxing fan you would be clamoring for this fight, and yet you're running a 2000 miles per hour away from it. What does that say about you? Are you even a boxing fan?

[etech1]

if ward doesn't fight the number 2 guy in the division then he should retire. what do you expect ward to fight the number 10 and 11 guy now..lmao you sound ******ed.

Considering Ward said that he is looking to move to HW, it's you who looks ******ed.

[etech1]

Interesting how you ignore the fact that Kovalev pulled out of a purse bid to avoid Stevenson.

Don't let me catch you telling me about Duva tryna negotiate either, any idiot that reads any of her comments can see through those bullshieet lies. Duva doesn't negotiate, she makes ridiculous take it or leave it offers and then when the other side obviously doesn't agree to that crap she runs to the media to paint the other side before they can defend themselves.

Purse bid would have solved all that shieet but she went and pulled out, then guess what, she ran straight to the media to make it look like she is the victim.

In any case, defaq ma letting you drag me into this shieet in the first place.

This is 2017, and Kovalev aint no champion no more, he's a nobody.

Stevenson is the lineal and wbc champ, and Ward is ducking him.

That's what happening now irrespective of what happened in the past.

I'm pretty sure neither you nor I have a time traveling machine so **** off with that shieet about the past.

Stevenson is the biggest name and most dangerous fighter Ward can fight NOW. That is the biggest fight at LHW and it ends all debates about who the best in the weight is.

If you so confident in your boy and if you were a real boxing fan you would be clamoring for this fight, and yet you're running a 2000 miles per hour away from it. What does that say about you? Are you even a boxing fan?

Stevenson ran to Haymon when the fight between him and Kov was at the helm. That is common knowledge. Secondly, I'm not going to get into the he said she said BS.

Kov fought way tougher compition then Chickenson, and over time people can tell who really wants it, and who doesn't. There's not too many people who say Kov is a ducker, but it's pretty well known that Stevenson has hid behind Haymon and fought mostly cans.

And again, if Ward stays at LHW, then of COURSE he should fight Chickenson, but the man has eluded to moving up to HW, and based on him grabbing 3 of the 4 belts as soon as he arrived, he has earned the right to go where TF he wants.

If Ward stays at LHW, and doesn't fight Stevenson, then we will be in agreement.

[TMTForever99]

Considering Ward said that he is looking to move to HW, it's you who looks ******ed.

let's see him do that. but until he does move to heavyweight he will need to face adonis stevenson. so your ******ed self thinks andre ward is going to move to heavyweight lmao.. ward must face the no.2 in adonis or vacate the titles. he can't stay at `75 and face anyone other than him or he is ducking.