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  • Originally posted by My Low Place View Post
    bhop left showtime for less money to avoid adoins and fight kovalev on hbo...so once again..i ask u how are u downing adonis?

    fighting around the lineal champion isnt the way boxing works homie..

    every name in tht paragraph u mentione literally ahs turned donw a stevenson fight...this is 100% true
    That's completely untrue, Hopkins did not avoid Stevenson to fight Kovalev. If he did, he was taking on the better fighter for doing so. We don't know the ins and outs of what happens behind the scenes we can only look at what's actually happening. As it stands Kovalev has been fighting names, Stevenson has not.

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    • Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
      That was AFTER Stevenson, left Duva, left HBO, left the deal on the table to fight Kovalev and ran to Haymon and Showtime. Don't get the two mixed up, Stevenson is no fool, he ran, he ducked and his opposition following that move shows his motives were money not fighting the best.
      besides andre ward who is ranked higher than adonis stevenson at 175? no where to run and nowhere to hide all you clowns who made excuses for adonis to nnot fight your fav fighter are running out of steam. adonis vs ward for undisputed what's the problem now?

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      • Originally posted by My Low Place View Post
        like who bhop?
        the guy who told showtime and the media "i promise im never going back to hbo" then when him and adonis negotiated he demaned 75% of the take and went back to hbo and gave kovalev 35% of the take

        im only holding an "honorable" man to his word right?? u wont?
        u shouldnt he's the same guy that said "he pushed me out the ring it wasnt a punch" lol

        oh u must mean pascal?
        the guy who demanded the higher split from stevenson but took 40% of the purse from kovalev??

        a guy who stevenson negotiated with for a whole month and until a deadline date...but pascal wouldnt bulge...then a month later he comes back and says i'll take 40% when stevenson date is already scheduled and done?

        these are all facts...stevenson has been media blackballed and fought around...if u dont like it let's just stop here...bc im not here to argue or discredit you..im only dropping what is real
        these kovalev fans are a joke. you would think they want to see the best fighters at `75 fight but they keep running around trying to make adonis a non factor at 175 when he is the lineal WBC chanpion knocking out everyone. they are running out of time as adonis will eventually get ward in the ring and ko him.

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        • Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
          And how many soft touches did Ward fight before the Kovalev fight? You remember that the sanctioning bodies even refused to sanction one of those fights coz of how much of a bum the guy Ward wanted to fight was, or didn't you know that?

          Tell me how well has he defended the titles he won from Kovalev? Coz last time I checked Ward wanted to fight Bellew, who happens to be one of Stevenson's left over KO victims.

          But you support that ish right? Ward should avoid Stevenson and fight one of his left overs instead?

          That's what true champions do right?
          Ward definitely took his time getting back up to top form before Kov, but like I keep preaching, Ward also challenged and then KTFO the most feared man in the division.

          He had been at LHW for only 18 months, and owned 3/4 of the division. Stevenson has been living off those Haymon checks for years, not doing much.

          As for the potential Bellew fight, I understood that to mean a move to HW for Ward, and he was testing the waters with a easier fight.

          I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Stevenson and beat him too, but unifying isnt going to put that much bigger of a feather in ward's hat then is already there.

          Of course money is the answer to 99 out of 100 questions, and Ward don't come cheap. A Stevenson fight probably won't generate enough benjys, and only fights at HW will bring that type of cash.

          I'm not a fan of fighters only chasing dollars, but Ward just knocked one out of the park with the bases loaded. As a fan, I think he has earned some clout.

          Stevenson should go after Jack, cuz that will give him a piece of the WBA belt.

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          • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            I have already done that, on multiple occasions

            the Cotto fight was 155, which Canelo made

            Cotto weighed 153

            the Khan fight was..... who fkn cares, because it was Khan

            " I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez told a group of reporters recently. “I’m a super welterweight. That’s my weight class. However, I wanted to fight this fight [against Khan] for some sort of title "


            now, carry on..... and finish your story about how Canelo needs to use diuretics to lose 1 pound
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            FACT: Canelo has never fought AT middleweight

            FACT: Canelo has never fought A middleweight

            FACT: you think Canelo needs to use diuretics to lose 1 fkn pound
            LMAO! ... You are such a slimy liar, you literally cannot bring yourself to face the truth ...

            Canelo vs Cotto and Canelo vs Khan were middleweight title fights, at the sanctioned middleweight limit of 160lbs.


            Another simple question for you ... if Canelo was a super welterweight, and he could make 154 easily, why did he fight 4 times at 155lbs?

            What was the rational and motive behind the creation of the infamous Caneloweight division?

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            • Originally posted by TMTForever99 View Post
              besides andre ward who is ranked higher than adonis stevenson at 175? no where to run and nowhere to hide all you clowns who made excuses for adonis to nnot fight your fav fighter are running out of steam. adonis vs ward for undisputed what's the problem now?
              Easy work for the king Andre Ward, that's all man. Ward will have no problem there.

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              • Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
                Easy work for the king Andre Ward, that's all man. Ward will have no problem there.
                ok , then telll ward to make the fight with adonis next year..lmao ward and kovalev would get killed by adonis

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                • Originally posted by etech1 View Post
                  Ward definitely took his time getting back up to top form before Kov, but like I keep preaching, Ward also challenged and then KTFO the most feared man in the division.

                  He had been at LHW for only 18 months, and owned 3/4 of the division. Stevenson has been living off those Haymon checks for years, not doing much.

                  As for the potential Bellew fight, I understood that to mean a move to HW for Ward, and he was testing the waters with a easier fight.

                  I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Stevenson and beat him too, but unifying isnt going to put that much bigger of a feather in ward's hat then is already there.

                  Of course money is the answer to 99 out of 100 questions, and Ward don't come cheap. A Stevenson fight probably won't generate enough benjys, and only fights at HW will bring that type of cash.

                  I'm not a fan of fighters only chasing dollars, but Ward just knocked one out of the park with the bases loaded. As a fan, I think he has earned some clout.

                  Stevenson should go after Jack, cuz that will give him a piece of the WBA belt.
                  See, now you done gone way off topic.

                  Fact is, Ward criticizing Stevenson for not unifying the division while he himself is avoiding doing that exact same thing when the fight couldn't be more available than it right now.

                  That's an unbendable and unequivocal fact. The rest is all semantics.

                  Ward acting like a bish and a hypocrite, plain and simple.

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                  • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    LMAO! ... You are such a slimy liar, you literally cannot bring yourself to face the truth ...

                    Canelo vs Cotto and Canelo vs Khan were middleweight title fights, at the sanctioned middleweight limit of 160lbs.

                    Another simple question for you ... if Canelo was a super welterweight, and he could make 154 easily, why did he fight 4 times at 155lbs?

                    What was the rational and motive behind the creation of the infamous Caneloweight division?

                    pay attention, and you will learn something.....

                    firstly.....

                    FACT: the contracted weight for the Cotto fight was 155

                    FACT: I have no idea what the contracted weight was for the Khan fight..... because..... who fkn cares, we are talking about Amir Khan

                    if you think that anyone is participating in a genuine middleweight bout by facing Amir Khan, then you should not be here..... and if you are not referring to "genuine"..... then who fkn cares?

                    and btw, Canelo said this.....

                    " I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez told a group of reporters recently. “I’m a super welterweight. That’s my weight class. However, I wanted to fight this fight [against Khan] for some sort of title "

                    now that we have that cleared up, let's address your other whine..... I mean, "concern"

                    edit:
                    FACT: the contracted weight for the Khan fight was 155

                    I just checked

                    you are talking shht, again


                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    Another simple question for you ... if Canelo was a super welterweight, and he could make 154 easily, why did he fight 4 times at 155lbs?

                    What was the rational and motive behind the creation of the infamous Caneloweight division?

                    when Canelo was campaigning at JMW, he fought at 155 for the exact same reason why he fought at 150 when he was campaigning at welter

                    Reynoso has explained why on many occasions, and so have I

                    at welter, Reynoso explained that they fought at 150 in order to extend Saul's career. Their rationale was..... 147 was difficult to make, so Canelo will fight at 150 unless it happens to be a big (I assume, title) fight..... and guess what, they did the exact same thing at 155 when Canelo moved up to JMW

                    once again, for the record..... Team Canelo stated that they are giving him an extra pound in order to preserve Saul's career

                    personally, I find that lame as fk

                    so what if it is " difficult " to make weight..... it is difficult for the other guy as well, and making weight is the leveller in boxing

                    Canelo did not drain his JMW opponents, so folks need to get a grip..... but he did give himself an extra pound that may have benefitted him more than it benefited his JMW opponents

                    as I said, that was lame and unprofessional in my book..... no idea why Canelo did not cop more flak for that b1tch-move..... at 155 it may not be such a big deal, but at welter that was pretty damn lame

                    which means that you get some homework, like you gave me

                    1) why were you completely unaware that Canelo had many more than 4 catchweight fights if you include his 150 campaign?

                    2) why did nobody (including you, obviously) mention a damn thing about his 150 campaign.....?

                    oh right, I forgot..... the Golovkin Protection Squad had no interest in Canelo at that point in time..... so it wasn't a problem LOL

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                    • Ward should fight Stevenson

                      THAT is the fight to make at 175..... yesiree bob

                      I still want Kovalev/Stevenson, but Ward is the man at LHW

                      Ward should learn from passing on Bute and take that opportunity

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