Name 1 Prime A-level fighter that Mayweather has on his resume......

[daggum]

Wow lol. So mosley beats margarito and and kicks the **** out of him. Then floyd beats mosley, but all you guys say is how floyd ducked margarito.

Hey genius, maybe margarito should have been good enough to beat mosley and he would have landed a floyd fight. truth is he wasnt.

no if he beat mosley floyd would have just continued to duck. some guys he just didnt want to fight. he was offered 7 million to figth marg but he fought sharmba and zab for much less. he could have fought marg for 8 million plus did much better ppvs bringing in margs mexican fanbase(same fanbase floyd catered to all the time) but he chose to fight unknown baldomir and the ppv bombed. he could have fought margarito after he scored a huge win over cotto and was at his most popular. he did not. so spare me the floyd would have fought him nonsense. this is the definition of cherry picking. doesnt mean mosley ******. it means he was the right guy at the right time for floyd but thats not how boxing should work. if you want to be the best you shold haev to fight whoever happens to be the best. you shouldnt wait around on the sidelines for the perfect opponent like floyd did. we saw the same pattern with other guys like cotto and pac as well so im not sure why you are defending him. its clear that was his MO.

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=New England;18000205]

here's another one

yeah man, canelo sat on a chair at the weigh in because he was feeling great!

and look at his stomach! not shrunk in!




Look at him sitting down on stage





and here's canelo talking about how mayweather's team wanted him to fight at 147 lbs . not trying to drain him though! and when they took canelo's next fight at 155 lbs it was just for show, right?


you might be that biased, hardly worth the time fo day fanboy who can look a young fighter with no muscle tone, sitting down in a chair with his stomach shrunken in like he's been starving, but i am not. there are a bunch of people in this thread who actually think and look into issues instead of simply toting hte party line and shouting TBE everywhere they go. we're called adults. and sometimes the kids just need to shut the f#ck up and learn something from the adults.

You can't talk about "bias" when your opinions of Mayweather are based on emotions. You made similar comments about Pernell Whitaker too which shows you sure as hell aren't an "adult" when it comes to boxing discussions.

You want people to believe Canelo was so weak and starved that he couldn't stand because he sat in a chair LOL


Funny how you still haven't answered the question either. That stuff you spewed is meaningless. Who had a better record than the "protected" Mayweather within the last 20 years? What signs of being drained did Canelo show in the fight? Don't hurt yourself thinking lol.

[RussB23]

no if he beat mosley floyd would have just continued to duck. some guys he just didnt want to fight. he was offered 7 million to figth marg but he fought sharmba and zab for much less. he could have fought marg for 8 million plus did much better ppvs bringing in margs mexican fanbase(same fanbase floyd catered to all the time) but he chose to fight unknown baldomir and the ppv bombed. he could have fought margarito after he scored a huge win over cotto and was at his most popular. he did not. so spare me the floyd would have fought him nonsense. this is the definition of cherry picking. doesnt mean mosley ******. it means he was the right guy at the right time for floyd but thats not how boxing should work. if you want to be the best you shold haev to fight whoever happens to be the best. you shouldnt wait around on the sidelines for the perfect opponent like floyd did. we saw the same pattern with other guys like cotto and pac as well so im not sure why you are defending him. its clear that was his MO.

How do you know that though? Thats all hypothetical ****. All we know is mosley beat margarito and then floyd fought mosley. Lets say margarito beat mosley, we dont know what would have happened so its useless to even debate about it.

[RussB23]

[QUOTE=joseph5620;18000350]

You can't talk about "bias" when your opinions of Mayweather are based on emotions. You made similar comments about Pernell Whitaker too which shows you sure as hell aren't an "adult" when it comes to boxing discussions.

You want people to believe Canelo was so weak and starved that he couldn't stand because he sat in a chair LOL


Funny how you still haven't answered the question either. That stuff you spewed is meaningless. Who had a better record than the "protected" Mayweather within the last 20 years? What signs of being drained did Canelo show in the fight? Don't hurt yourself thinking lol.

He says canelo was drained in the floyd fight very badly. Then i showed him pics of canelo looking like **** at the smith weigh in too and its like he completely ignores the fact that canelo was drained too. Canelo was always drained because hes a huge mother****er who cut around 20-25 pounds of weight every fight. The bias is hillarious.

[daggum]

His prime was at the lower weights. From around 2001-2005. He was still at his peak around the delahoya and hatton fight but after that you could see a decline in his speed and physical shape. By the time he fought guys like mosley, canelo, ortiz, he wasnt in his prime anymore is what i was saying.

Mayweather at his absolute best was around the coralles and gatti fights.

so prime floyd lost to castillo and hes the greatest ever? ummmm...

[joseph5620]

He says canelo was drained in the floyd fight very badly. Then i showed him pics of canelo looking like **** at the smith weigh in too and its like he completely ignores the fact that canelo was drained too. Canelo was always drained because hes a huge mother****er who cut around 20-25 pounds of weight every fight. The bias is hillarious.

It's funny how he likes to accuse others of being "bias" as if he's objective

[megas30]

[QUOTE=soul_survivor;17999670]

What is this bs? Yes Corrales was an above average fighter but at no point did anyone think he wold be THAT much better than May, which is why you have now stopped using the word "kill".

Oh and who thought Hatton was going to beat Mayweather?

You really are pathetic, with your ******ed profile picture.

Above average? Talking about revisionism. What does my profile have to do with this thread? Please, say what it is you really want to say. Please feel free.....i know what you want to say, so don't be a coward, just say it.

[daggum]

How do you know that though? Thats all hypothetical ****. All we know is mosley beat margarito and then floyd fought mosley. Lets say margarito beat mosley, we dont know what would have happened so its useless to even debate about it.

ah playing blind deaf and dumb man i see. we dont know what would have happened!!! we have all the prior evidence that he never wanted to fight margarito but you are expecting him to break all trends? not very rational. if marg had just kept winning you think floyd would have fought him...which defies all his previous actions yet mosley looked like sh-it for years, wins one fight and floyd fights him. so floyd clearly had different standards depending on the opponent(and it wasnt popularity or money) and when the fighters he ended up fighting were guys like baldomir and old mosley and not prime marg, prime cotto, and prime pac...its pretty obvious what was going on.

[megas30]

How is cotto dragged down in weight to 145 better than full strength cotto at 154 coming off of beating margaritos ass? Cotto wasnt damaged goods at all, he just took a beating from margarito then beat his ass in the rematch. Someone who is damaged goods doesnt do that.

The truth is both floyd and manny fought cotto while he was still in his prime, manny just dragged him down 2 extra pounds for no reason but to drain him a little more.

Also canelo was in his prime when floyd beat him he had over 40 pro fights and had been a pro since 15, he wasnt "green" at all. And wasnt drained at all, him and oscar offered to fight floyd at 150, floyd actually gave them 2 extra pounds by fighting at 152.

Canelo
Cotto

2 prime a level opponents. There you go.

Cotto trained himself for the Pac's fight.

[megas30]

neither floyd nor pacquiao fought a prime cotto.
pacquiao fought the better version of cotto. pacquiao did better against cotto.


if you really think cotto was prime when he fought floyd you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. cotto was never the same after the margarito fight, and he took an additional life changing beating against manny and was reduced to not even trying to win the fight. the margarito beating changed him mentally and physically. pacquiao finished off whatever remained.

Look at it this way, a past prime, untrained Cotto fought a prime Pac, while a past prime Mayweather fought a past prime Miguel Cotto.