Conor gassed out due to his poor conditioning/not ready for 12 rounder

[Zaryu]

Like I said, he was a novice stepping up to the plate. He's inexperienced defeated him. His lack of of it lost him the fight, but seeing what he did to a self proclaimed TBE coming in as 0-0 fighter speaks volumes. He did more than expected and then some.

Conor won even though he lost.

That's a problem though, because he's an MMA fighter, how many fights would he really need to not be considered inexperienced? The man lost and had no chance of winning. It's not just because he was making his pro debut, It's because he's an MMA fighter who can't really box, if he could he would've been a boxer (much more luCrative as he just found out) and not an MMA fighter.

Before the fight, his fans believed in him, they believed his MMA skills would be enough to upset Floyd, but that wasn't the case. Not even close, so don't pretend now like he just lost because he hadn't boxed before. There's also a good reason as to why he hadn't boxed before, and that's because this fight wouldn't have happened.

[Boxing Logic]

Agreed, great post.

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Another MMA guy with one of boxings best, they no where near the rookie you idiots try and make out, they fighters and train boxing for years.

[maracho]

It takes years to get ready for a 12 round fight, which is why they call them the championship rounds and I say Maywether just made it look like he was taking a risk

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It takes years to get ready for a 12 round fight, which is why they call them the championship rounds and I say Maywether just made it look like he was taking a risk

It doesn't take years, it takes mental strength conditioning and pacing yourself, that's why pro fighters like Pauli can come of the street and spar 12 rounds they have a mental pacemaker.

Connors nervous energy is what saps him, he will never beat it because I think under all the bravado there is a bit of fear that builds as rounds go on.

[Diego Rodriguez]

If it is an 8 round fight Mayweather isn't giving him the first 3. This is just silly. The fight that won't die.

[maracho]

It doesn't take years, it takes mental strength conditioning and pacing yourself, that's why pro fighters like Pauli can come of the street and spar 12 rounds they have a mental pacemaker.

Connors nervous energy is what saps him, he will never beat it because I think under all the bravado there is a bit of fear that builds as rounds go on.

Nope, Pauli fought six years as a pro before he ever went 12 rounds and in that fight he got his whole face litterally shattered by a guy named Cotto who the powers that be allowed to cheat at the scales. Anyway, Pauli also had years of amateur fights before this, which is all part of what makes him tough and mentally and arobically conditioned. Of course DNA plays a part too

[Spoon23]

That's a problem though, because he's an MMA fighter, how many fights would he really need to not be considered inexperienced? The man lost and had no chance of winning. It's not just because he was making his pro debut, It's because he's an MMA fighter who can't really box, if he could he would've been a boxer (much more luCrative as he just found out) and not an MMA fighter.

Before the fight, his fans believed in him, they believed his MMA skills would be enough to upset Floyd, but that wasn't the case. Not even close, so don't pretend now like he just lost because he hadn't boxed before. There's also a good reason as to why he hadn't boxed before, and that's because this fight wouldn't have happened.

Point 1: We are in a boxing forum, It's what we boxing fans expected on how Conor will perform not what MMA fans think. We expected Conor to be slaughtered in there with an elite boxer. I for one expected Floyd to destroy him within 6. That said, seeing Conor take the first 4 rounds (arguably and last 10 rounds) That speaks for itself on how talented he is.

Point 2: Conor has MMA skills, boxing skills is obviously amtauer and inexperienced in a Pro fight. Pause, a pro fight. That's a different discipline bud. It's like badminton player going to Tennis. Every athletes skill in a given sport is harnessed through time. Conor Had 9 weeks to get ready in his first pro fight. That's a lot to chew on to fight not just any pro fighter but a self proclaimed TBE. That in itself, is one tough mofo to even dare step in there with an elite. Knowing full well, a boxer hones his skills in years, What is finally proved is the technique and conditioning levels you get to when learning to box for 14 - 15 years before turning pro is very significant. Conor wasn't ready for a 12 rounder. He hasn't have the time to acclimatize for a 12 rounder. That's a huge handicap he had going into the fight, and was proven fatal as he gassed to early. If you can recall going into round 5 Conor was winning in the score cards, but in round 5, he already showed signs of gassing out. His mouth was open, evident of a man about to drown on his own weak stamina.


3. If you can't see Conor as someone who can't box. You can't see a rough gem even if it's right in front of you. The guy was doing his business, out landing him in the first 4 rounds, and keeping Floyd at bay, as floyd got rattled and confused on how to get in. He certainly can land and create shots over a supposed elite boxer. That speaks for itself. Granted he was throwing arm punches in the mid rounds. He did those coz he was fatigued and had no more gas to run a full 12. Like I said an 8 rounder would have been his best shot. It could have been a win for Conor or at least a draw. That's how ridiculously close this fight is, if it weren't for his lack of 12 round conditioning.

Conclusion: He did more than most boxing fans expected of him. He was in there with the best boxing had to offer. He held his own and has a strong argument he won 4 straight rounds. I don't think Floyd mayweather wanted that to happen. Conor kept him at bay when he had the strength and stamina to play the range game.

Conor's own thoughts of what happened.

Starts @ 1:00 Conor: 'It was just fatigue'


@ 2:48 Conor: 'It's an adjustment to go 12 rounds. You know what I mean from changing from 5 to 12 rounders. 5 rounds to 12 is a lot so whatever'




Floyd definitely needs to retire for good this time around. That performance was in the realm of bewilderment of how easy he got hit. It was shocking to see Floyd get hit like that.

It's just wrong in all levels to continue on with that performance. It is really time to hang up. He's done. I don't want to Floyd expose himself some more.

[Zaryu]

Point 1: We are in a boxing forum, It's what we boxing fans expected on how Conor will perform not what MMA fans think. We expected Conor to be slaughtered in there with an elite boxer. I for one expected Floyd to destroy him within 6. That said, seeing Conor take the first 4 rounds (arguably and last 10 rounds) That speaks for itself on how talented he is.

Stop changing the narrative, this boxing forum has an MMA section, and the boxing section was invaded by a lot of MMA fans that may or may not enjoy boxing as well. The event was a boxing event in which a huge part of the target market was MMA fans who thought their sport was superior and a boxing match was half a fight.

If you expected Floyd to destroy a much bigger elite athletic fighter in 6 rounds that's on you. However, if Connor would've pressed the action instead of running away, he might've been stopped around the sixth round, but he didn't, and people in the know were aware Floyd was going to press the action to tire Connor out, so there were no big surprises there.

Another point here is that Floyd did slaughter Connor, he walked him down, made him run, made him hold, landed solid shots and pressed the action before Connor folded. If the referee hadn't stepped in it would've been an even more conclusive slaughter.

Point 2: Conor has MMA skills, boxing skills is obviously amtauer and inexperienced in a Pro fight. Pause, a pro fight. That's a different discipline bud. It's like badminton player going to Tennis. Every athletes skill in a given sport is harnessed through time. Conor Had 9 weeks to get ready in his first pro fight. That's a lot to chew on to fight not just any pro fighter but a self proclaimed TBE. That in itself, is one tough mofo to even dare step in there with an elite. Knowing full well, a boxer hones his skills in years, What is finally proved is the technique and conditioning levels you get to when learning to box for 14 - 15 years before turning pro is very significant. Conor wasn't ready for a 12 rounder. He hasn't have the time to acclimatize for a 12 rounder. That's a huge handicap he had going into the fight, and was proven fatal as he gassed to early. If you can recall going into round 5 Conor was winning in the score cards, but in round 5, he already showed signs of gassing out. His mouth was open, evident of a man about to drown on his own weak stamina.

It's not like a badminton player playing tennis, it's more like a triathlon athlete challenging a marathon runner. Besides, Connor had more than 9 weeks to train, he had already sparred against Van Heerdan a while back, he knew the fight would happen way before it got signed, and a month before the fight he was sparring 12 rounds against Paulie Malignaggi. He had time to acclimatize and condition his body for boxing. All of the boxing community knew Connor would gas out regardless, just like we knew would be outclassed. If these were such big obstacles he should have negotiated for a later fight date.

Mayweather is also a 40 year old man who wasn't the same fighter he was 2 years before going inactive. And even the 38-year-old version of the self-proclaimed TBE was a step down from the true prime form of Floyd. So whatever success Connor had against Floyd, is almost a moot point since he never faced the p4p#1 version of Mayweather like you seem to be alluding to.

You also need to keep in mind Connor won rounds based on Floyd's strategy, if Connor would've been a real threat, Floyd wouldn't have gambled the first three rounds the way he did, he would've forced Connor to come to him and stick to what he does best.

3. If you can't see Conor as someone who can't box. You can't see a rough gem even if it's right in front of you. The guy was doing his business, out landing him in the first 4 rounds, and keeping Floyd at bay, as floyd got rattled and confused on how to get in. He certainly can land and create shots over a supposed elite boxer. That speaks for itself. Granted he was throwing arm punches in the mid rounds. He did those coz he was fatigued and had no more gas to run a full 12. Like I said an 8 rounder would have been his best shot. It could have been a win for Conor or at least a draw. That's how ridiculously close this fight is, if it weren't for his lack of 12 round conditioning.

Connor has decent boxing skills they're just not at the elite level. The success he had against Floyd has already been explained by the age, size and tactical approach of Floyd. Connor threw arm punches since the beginning of the fight, way before he gassed out. If he wasn't taking steam off of those punches in the beginning then he just really has poor power. An 8 rounder wouldn't have been Connors best chance, his best chance would've been a 1 round fight. The problem with that is elite boxing is made up of 12 rounds. You can't pretend you can invade the elite level of a sport and later employ conditions to reduce the difficulty of the sport you're dismissing as lesser than your own.

Conclusion: He did more than most boxing fans expected of him. He was in there with the best boxing had to offer. He held his own and has a strong argument he won 4 straight rounds. I don't think Floyd mayweather wanted that to happen. Conor kept him at bay when he had the strength and stamina to play the range game.

I don't think he did more than what most boxing fans expected, he showed better skills than what most thought he had, but he also employed a different strategy than most thought he would. Most people I talked to understood Connor would start off well and fade later in the fight. That's EXACTLY what happened. However, we were impressed with his timing and fighting IQ, but that's it. You keep referring as if Floyd is still the best fighter in the world. Not sure if ignorance, or if you're just playing the card to make your argument stronger. Floyd is not the best fighter in the world. That's why he gets a pass for not fighting Errol Spence and other young & dangerous fighters. At 40 and with 2 years of inactivity this was even more obvious.

Conor's own thoughts of what happened.

Starts @ 1:00 Conor: 'It was just fatigue'


@ 2:48 Conor: 'It's an adjustment to go 12 rounds. You know what I mean from changing from 5 to 12 rounders. 5 rounds to 12 is a lot so whatever'




Floyd definitely needs to retire for good this time around. That performance was in the realm of bewilderment of how easy he got hit. It was shocking to see Floyd get hit like that.

It's just wrong in all levels to continue on with that performance. It is really time to hang up. He's done. I don't want to Floyd expose himself some more.

You also seem to contradict yourself, you talk about Floyd being the best, but also say he's done... which one is it? I think Connor is a talented fighter who, like his followers & the MMA community, greatly underestimated the difficulty of being successful in boxing. If he really is a prize fighter, i.e. fighting for the most money, he should challenge another boxer, but this time he should fight someone his own size. I guarantee you the boxing community would be spot on about the outcome once again.

Hopefully, that's it for us on this topic, we obviously don't agree on this and I'm over the whole McCregor thing boxing anyways.

[French-Punch]

Floyd fought like Mike Tyson for the first time of his life and he won. Lol
No respect for Conor whatsoever.

''What ? My defensive stance ? **** that ****, not against this guy please !''
''Instead I will go for a Peekaboo style and knock him out when I feel like it.''

As simple as that Conor fan boy.
Don't mention that uppercut again please.
The reason Floyd missed that punch is because he hits exactly where the head of an experienced boxer would have been.