GGG v Canelo: The Gameplan

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  • TonyGe
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    #31
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    where does the story come from? who is hendrix? if theres no one backing it up then it probably isnt likely, considering I havent even seen world level mws get GGGs body, let alone hurt him there
    It's on YouTube...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBc0c9CEPcg&app=desktop

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    • TonyGe
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      #32
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      Id be more inclined to believe jr could do that lol



      I dunno if Canelo mentally checked out against mayweather. What I saw was a 22 yo kid iwth limited top level experience against an atg who jus tso happened to get eveyrthing he wanted, in particular the weight demand.

      Even at that stage Canelo had trouble with 154, let alone 152. He was physically, rather than psychologically unable to compete.

      Btw its important to note I mentioned heart rather than confidence. Extremely confident fighters can lack heart, look at someone like Duran, heck in recent times McGregor and many others.
      Duran has never lacked heart. You are mistaken if you base your view on the second Leonard fight. He got pissed off at Leonard's antics and foolishly stopped fighting. Did you watch him against Barkley a man much much bigger than him. Barkley hit him so hard with a punch that Duran spun around like a top. He could have quit but he ended up dropping Barkley and winning the fight. Gil Clancey who knows a thing or two about fighters was amazed at the skill and heart that Duran showed.

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      • TonyGe
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        #33
        Originally posted by Graz
        True and I think this video illustrates the subtle skills of Golovkin. It all has to do with timing and rhythm. Pretty interesting.

        https://********/AO9hb1kGOhs
        Extremely interesting... Thanks

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        • MDPopescu
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          #34
          ... gameplan???

          ... well: "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the..."

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          • soul_survivor
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            #35
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            Duran has never lacked heart. You are mistaken if you base your view on the second Leonard fight. He got pissed off at Leonard's antics and foolishly stopped fighting. Did you watch him against Barkley a man much much bigger than him. Barkley hit him so hard with a punch that Duran spun around like a top. He could have quit but he ended up dropping Barkley and winning the fight. Gil Clancey who knows a thing or two about fighters was amazed at the skill and heart that Duran showed.
            I never said Duran lacked heart throughout his career but against Leonard he certainly did. Take it or leave it.

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            • FrankieClutch
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              #36
              GGG's game plan should be working behind his jab, use his superior footwork to present different angles, pressuring the hell out of Canelo, and working the body early to exhaust him.

              Canelo's game plan should be to stay off the ropes, try to take away GGG's jab with sharp pull counters or leading more often that not, and putting together combinations to stifle GGG's offense.

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              • G22
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                #37
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Ok, lets get down to the real boxing. What gameplan do you guys think either one of these men needs to employ to beat the other?
                Canelo-
                Upper body movement, handspeed and counter punching are the keys to victory I think Alvarez will focus on. He won't look to engage too early, he will be patient, precise and up his tempo the longer it goes. He will keep his back off the ropes more than he has done in recent fights and answer any attacks with his own combinations sending out a message to triple G he won't be dominated

                Golovkin-
                I think Golovkins gameplan will surprise a lot of people I don't see him coming out fast leading with his face and looking to mix it straight away. I see a more considered approach behind the jab, steady pressure and keeping it long. Similar to the limieux fight Golovkin will not take chances early on. As the rounds progress he will step in behind the jab more looking for a left hook to the body, cutting off the ring but not losing his composure under fire. In the late rounds his steady pressure will have turned into relentless pressure, he just has to remember to let his hands go more than he did vs Jacobs
                Last edited by G22; 08-29-2017, 02:08 PM.

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                • TonyGe
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor
                  I never said Duran lacked heart throughout his career but against Leonard he certainly did. Take it or leave it.
                  I'll leave it.....
                  Last edited by TonyGe; 08-29-2017, 02:10 PM.

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                  • TheBigLug
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                    #39
                    I think both guys just need to fight their fight. I don't think either have great variation in their work. Golovkin either powers forward cutting the ring off, or he gets behind a stiff jab but still essentially relies on power. Canelo fights one way basically due to being pretty much flat footed, but what he does, he does excellently, as does Golovkin.

                    I don't think either guy can afford to stray too far from what they do best. They're in with too good of an opponent to stray from their strengths. I think Golovkin takes it because i don't think Canelo's upper body movement will be enough to avoid taking shots without the ability to move around the ring too.

                    Stylistically, i think the fight is ideal for both guys in a way. Canelo is essentially going to be right in front of GGG all night because he hasn't got the feet to get away from him, but Canelo would prefer a guy to be right there coming at him rather than chasing, again because he doesn't have the feet for it. I also don't think Canelo will want to engage too early but i don't think he will have much choice when he can't exactly get away from GGG in the ring.

                    I do see Golovkin maybe getting behind the jab for a round or two but if Canelo's upper body movement is good and he's sharp with the counters, then Golovkin will just try walking him down instead, especially if he feels Canelo's shots are not too heavy.

                    It's going to be a case of who's style beats the others style, rather than making big adjustments during the fight.
                    Last edited by TheBigLug; 08-29-2017, 02:35 PM.

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                    • tokon
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor
                      I never said Duran lacked heart throughout his career but against Leonard he certainly did. Take it or leave it.
                      I'll take that.

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