So is GGG still short work ?

[Metho_4u]

He did win a clear decision, called UD. Hopefully there's a rematch down the road. I'd like to see them do it again.


"Launched by a ww"? LOL! You mean the guy he finished in round 5? The guy who was hurt badly in round 1, should have been ruled down in round 2 or 3. Brook landed some punches and all you haters cream your pants.

Again call his skills "average" that's fine. If you want to sound like a fool I'm not stopping you.

Keep lying to yourself and believe the guys elite

[Diego Rodriguez]

Keep lying to yourself and believe the guys elite

Keep telling yourself you know something about boxing. LMAO.

[Metho_4u]

Keep telling yourself you know something about boxing. LMAO.

That was somehow funny? I didn't see the joke...you think golovkins elite then? If so, based on what?

[Real King Kong]

Straight up and down, no special effects.

Canelo is going to retire Golovkin. #StrapSeason #ManDown #LionsOnly

#suckabagof****s

[Diego Rodriguez]

That was somehow funny? I didn't see the joke...you think golovkins elite then? If so, based on what?

I didn't expect you to laugh at yourself.

Yes I believe he is an elite boxer right now. That simply means he is one of the best in the game today. Doesn't mean he is an all time elite, he still has work to do.

What makes him elite, well my own two eyes tell me he is. He's got 37 wins, 33 wins by KO and no defeats. Great amateur career and the boxing community knows he is one of the best in the game. Not an accident he is virtually ranked in everyone's P4P list.

[Metho_4u]

I didn't expect you to laugh at yourself.

Yes I believe he is an elite boxer right now. That simply means he is one of the best in the game today. Doesn't mean he is an all time elite, he still has work to do.

What makes him elite, well my own two eyes tell me he is. He's got 37 wins, 33 wins by KO and no defeats. Great amateur career and the boxing community knows he is one of the best in the game. Not an accident he is virtually ranked in everyone's P4P list.

How many HOF or p4p fighters has he fought or beaten?

How can a guy who's best win is a single B level fighter?

If he's p4p material, why hasn't he moved up and challenged anyone at 168? Why has he refused any weight under 160 if he claimed he would fight anyone from 154-168?

I keep hearing the "he's too small for smw or lhw, so why does Sanchez always brag about him beating up much bigger fighters in sparring? That's p4p material to you?

[Da Wizard]

Canelo is going to beat the living **** out of GGG. Lil G don't like it when you punch back. #bullymentality

[Diego Rodriguez]

How many HOF or p4p fighters has he fought or beaten?

How can a guy who's best win is a single B level fighter?

If he's p4p material, why hasn't he moved up and challenged anyone at 168? Why has he refused any weight under 160 if he claimed he would fight anyone from 154-168?

I keep hearing the "he's too small for smw or lhw, so why does Sanchez always brag about him beating up much bigger fighters in sparring? That's p4p material to you?

Doesn't take a rocket science to figure out why he hasn't moved up. Here's one clue, there's a big fight on 9/16. He never has got the true full recognition as being the best MW. Plus the money fight was in that division. Boxers are first and foremost here to make money. Didn't Floyd teach you anything.

So was Haglar not a P4P guy, he never moved up. Was Hopkins not a P4P guy before and after he beat Tito? He continued to stay in the same division. Did he need to beat Tito to be elite, or just maybe knowledgable people could see he was a P4P guy regardless if he beat another P4P or HOF before that fight.

I'm sure GGG would have fought Mayweather in a NYC second if Mayweather agreed to 154lbs. That 154lbs statement was basically for Mayweather and you know it. Everyone wanted a piece of Floyd and the golden goose. I don't blame Floyd for not looking for that fight, you'll never hear me say he "ducked" Golovkin.

I think Golovkin's resume is unfortunately weaker than it could be, and that's almost entirely because other MWs avoided him until recently. It is unfortunate and if he does go an to blast Canelo it will be sad that we didn't get to see him in big fights at a younger age. I believe had Golovkin faced Martinez three years ago the whole narrative about his resume would look different. In sum I saw enough of Golovkin to know he is an elite fighter right now in the sport just as I knew Hopkins was an elite fighter before the Tito fight. Same complaints were made about him and his terrible resume. Not until he destroyed Tito did he get his due in boxing. Most people picked Tito to win.

[Raggamuffin]

Of course but any decent boxer shouldn't be gassing at 5 rounds when you opponent is virtually throwing nothing and in fact you haven't thrown an exceptional amount of punches. Conor gassed primarily because he is not in boxing shape not because Floyd had some amazing plan to cause it. Conor was gassing like I do when I hear the trash truck coming down the street and I have to throw out the trash still. The trash truck isn't the principal cause of me gassing it is me being out of shape.

Of course Floyd has something to do with it, he's the guy in the ring with Conor. And he did throw some body shots but Conor's lack of stamina was overwhelmingly because he is an MMA fighter not a boxer. It is like a sprinter preparing for 3 months to be a distance running. You don't just change in a few weeks. This is disrespectful to the sport of boxing and the kind of silly talk we were hearing from MMA fans.

Boxers gas in the latter rounds as well against boxers so you have no point. You can give any excuse you want, but Floyd's pressure and body shots gassed him. People ring side who heard the punches kept hearing thuds from Floyds straight right. It was landing right in the pit of Conor's stomach. Floyd wears guys down like that and Conor was no different except that he's a UFC fighter and he wore out faster.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Boxers gas in the latter rounds as well against boxers so you have no point. You can give any excuse you want, but Floyd's pressure and body shots gassed him. People ring side who heard the punches kept hearing thuds from Floyds straight right. It was landing right in the pit of Conor's stomach. Floyd wears guys down like that and Conor was no different except that he's a UFC fighter and he wore out faster.

They do but not to that extent. And it wasn't like McGregor was throwing a high volume rate in rounds 1-3. And he almost threw no serious power punches. While I think Max Kellerman is generally a clown I agree. McGregor didn't throw hard punches because they probably wouldn't have landed.
If Conor had gone out there and bombed away like a guy like Lemieux who tends to gas by round 5 okay. But he wasn't.

Floyd is land a body shots I think starting in round 4. I made a comment that with Conor already gassing that he was smart to work the body.

Here's my final point; McGregor was outclassed big time. I had him winning the first there rounds only because Floyd didn't do anything except make Mgregor miss a rather low volume of punches. And most of those punches he threw had no real power behind them. Some of his punches landed but other than a decent upper cut nothing with any power.

Once Floyd turned it up in. Round 4, and it wasn't radical, he landed some punches, avoided some punches, and McGregor started gassing.

His gasing had a lot more to do with him being a UFC fighter and not a boxer. Sure Mayweather had something to do with it. Funny I've never seen another fighter other than Conor look so gassed against Mayweather that early, or maybe at any time of the fight. It took a UFC fighter to look that way, not an accident.