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  • Diego Rodriguez
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    #41
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    What a ****en amateur outlook, lmao. Floyd didn't wait for him to gas. Floyd gassed him. And Floyd GG was only talked about and was never going to happen.
    How did Floyd gas him, by making him punch? McGregor was noticeable getting tired in the 4th round. Floyd did start punching more and working the body but Conor was well on his way to already gassing out. So to me it was a combination of both. I also think had McGregor faced just about any boxer who was decent he'd have been totally gassed.

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    • Diego Rodriguez
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      #42
      Originally posted by j0zef
      They have both known the fight is not feasible for 2 years now. Why can't the fans accept it?
      Who are we talking about Floyd vs GGG or GGG vs. Ward because you can swap the names around and the same argument can be made.

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        #43
        Originally posted by larryxxx.
        He is 40 and weighed in at 149, come on man damn..Tell GGG to fight Ward if he gets past Canelo
        I agree with Larry and have ggg dare to be great and jump 2 weightclases to fight the P4P #1 dog something even lil Floyd never did. Dare to be great ggg don't be mediocre and take the easy road like Floyd did post Oscar

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          #44
          Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
          How did Floyd gas him, by making him punch? McGregor was noticeable getting tired in the 4th round. Floyd did start punching more and working the body but Conor was well on his way to already gassing out. So to me it was a combination of both. I also think had McGregor faced just about any boxer who was decent he'd have been totally gassed.
          Yeah by making him punch. Didn't you hear Conor's post fight comments? And Conor wasn't noticeably tired after 4. Conor seemed to have gassed totally in round 9. Floyd's straight right to the pit of the stomach slowly took Conor's legs away. Stop making excuses for Conor because you hate Floyd or love MMA. Any true boxing and MMA fan saw what Floyd was doing and many of their tweets confirmed this. Conor landed some punches but he missed way more than he landed.

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          • Diego Rodriguez
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            #45
            Originally posted by Raggamuffin
            Yeah by making him punch. Didn't you hear Conor's post fight comments? And Conor wasn't noticeably tired after 4. Conor seemed to have gassed totally in round 9. Floyd's straight right to the pit of the stomach slowly took Conor's legs away. Stop making excuses for Conor because you hate Floyd or love MMA. Any true boxing and MMA fan saw what Floyd was doing and many of their tweets confirmed this. Conor landed some punches but he missed way more than he landed.
            LOL, Conor threw less than forty punches per round until round 4. That is hardly making him punch himself out. This was no Ali vs Foreman exhibition. I texted my friend in round 4 at the end and said Conor is already tiring. USA Today in their round by round commentary noted Conor getting fatigued at end of round 5.

            I don't hate either guy. Funny I'm being attacked by the nuthuggers on both sides. Either guy craps and you guys think it smells like roses.
            Last edited by Diego Rodriguez; 08-28-2017, 11:44 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
              He is in the middleweight division, one of the most storied divisions in boxing history. The guy started in Kazahstan which I know most of you never heard of let alone knew it was a country. He went to Europe and when it didn't work the way he wanted he left there and came to America. Golovkin has done more to try and prove himself than most fighters ever do.

              You need two to tango and unfortunately some of the big name partners didn't want to tango. Most reasonable people in boxing know this wasn't due to Golovkin it was due to his opposition in the MW division.

              So the knock of course is that he didn't vacate the division, before beating the best in the division and giving up all the money fights to face Ward. Of course the Ward cry babies always fail to mention that Golovkin said anyone from 154-168 in 2012. Ward had his own issues at this time and was not available to fight.I never said Ward was "ducking" him. I'm sure some Golovkin fans did and that was dumb IMO. It wasn't until 3 years later that Ward came calling out Golovkin. Of course when Ward had no real attractive options on the table and fighting above 168lbs. He was also known to be tough to deal with. There would have been serious issue in negotiations I think. Of course this also just happened to be the same time his promo stablemate Cotto was getting tremendous pressure to fight GOlovkin.

              So basically Golovkin was supposed to throw away his chance to finally get the big name fights in one of the most prestigious divisions in boxing and where he fought his whole professional career (and where the big paydays were) to set up a fight against a guy who wasn't at 168lbs and known to be incredibly difficult to deal with. Yeah that makes no sense and would border on ******ation to think that made any sense.

              He would have been one of the greatest Middleweights by skipping the division without fully being acknowledged as the best? Okay that makes zero sense.

              Other than Canelo there is no one Golovkin could have faced, including Ward, that would have brought the same types of pay days that Floyd has got. He's been super good and super fortunate to have big name fighters around his division. That just doesn't happen generally from 160 and above.

              You can be successful coming from anywhere, Golovkin is proving that. But it is much more difficult from certain places. There is also no significant Kazah community like there is Filipinos in the US (I'm right down the street from one of the biggest communities in LA). Also, Pac shocked people. He didn't blow up until he destroyed Barerra. Not many people knew who he was. I don't think that fight happens if Barerra had suspected how good Pac really was. Pac came in under the radar which got him a big fight. It just takes one big victory and then you are on the stage. I think that is what Golovkin has missed and was robbed of. Had he faced Martinez years ago or Cotto thinks would look a lot different. But he didn't come in under the radar like Pac.

              Hopkins heard the same BS until he knocked out Tito. That was when he finally got his due. This is Golovkin's chance, we'll see.
              I agree with everything you say , but reality is you judge people for what they accomplish not what they could've accomplished , it is what it is and Floyd is on a different scale from him due to resume , going through a rougher road to get to where he was then an American born fighter is a nice story (and a real one) but its irrelevant when you judge a fighter legacy in the ring.
              If GGG lose to Canelo , he will not be remembered 15 years from now , if he wins he still has a chance to do something that will make him a legend , MW is legendary and he did all he can do in this division , he needs to prove he can beat elite fighters and he needs to try to do it NOW otherwise its too late.
              Lets hope he looks good vs Canelo!!! CANT WAIT

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              • Raggamuffin
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                #47
                Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
                LOL, Conor threw less than forty punches per round until round 4. That is hardly making him punch himself out. This was no Ali vs Foreman exhibition. I texted my friend in round 4 at the end and said Conor is already tiring. USA Today in their round by round commentary noted Conor getting fatigued at end of round 5.

                I don't hate either guy. Funny I'm being attacked by the nuthuggers on both sides. Either guy craps and you guys think it smells like roses.
                Missing punches make you tired too. Floyd kept trucking forward. You need to watch the fight again and see why Conor gassed. Floyd was landing some hard shots and wrestling with him too inside and Floyd was the stronger guy. He wore Conor out.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
                  yeah there is so much to hate. The guy started out in a dump of country and made it to America to fulfill a dream. He has stayed in the same division, one of the most storied in boxing history, and tried to capture all the titles. Excluding his last fight he has KO'd every one of his opponents. He fights an exciting style. The only reason he hasn't got a chance to solidify the division was because Martinez, Cotto, Canelo (until now) avoided him.

                  Hey if you think his skills are just above average that's on you. I think your ability to evaluate skills is poor to terrible. I think if you were in a group of boxing people; fighters and trainers you'be laughed at, of course that's just my opinion.
                  That's why golovkin got launched by a ww and couldn't win a clear decision over Jacobs? Ok, I guess that's alllllll my fault.

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                  • Diego Rodriguez
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Metho_4u
                    That's why golovkin got launched by a ww and couldn't win a clear decision over Jacobs? Ok, I guess that's alllllll my fault.
                    He did win a clear decision, called UD. Hopefully there's a rematch down the road. I'd like to see them do it again.


                    "Launched by a ww"? LOL! You mean the guy he finished in round 5? The guy who was hurt badly in round 1, should have been ruled down in round 2 or 3. Brook landed some punches and all you haters cream your pants.

                    Again call his skills "average" that's fine. If you want to sound like a fool I'm not stopping you.

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                    • Diego Rodriguez
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      Missing punches make you tired too. Floyd kept trucking forward. You need to watch the fight again and see why Conor gassed. Floyd was landing some hard shots and wrestling with him too inside and Floyd was the stronger guy. He wore Conor out.
                      Of course but any decent boxer shouldn't be gassing at 5 rounds when you opponent is virtually throwing nothing and in fact you haven't thrown an exceptional amount of punches. Conor gassed primarily because he is not in boxing shape not because Floyd had some amazing plan to cause it. Conor was gassing like I do when I hear the trash truck coming down the street and I have to throw out the trash still. The trash truck isn't the principal cause of me gassing it is me being out of shape.

                      Of course Floyd has something to do with it, he's the guy in the ring with Conor. And he did throw some body shots but Conor's lack of stamina was overwhelmingly because he is an MMA fighter not a boxer. It is like a sprinter preparing for 3 months to be a distance running. You don't just change in a few weeks. This is disrespectful to the sport of boxing and the kind of silly talk we were hearing from MMA fans.

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