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  • SugarRayCurtain
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    #11
    Originally posted by betmen
    at floyd always fight shorter man than him.

    FYI there are no blueprint for beating floyd, the man is master at adapting tactics through out the fight. yeah some man maybe can steal 2-3 rounds from floyd at the start of the fight but at the end floyd will always figure them out and win.

    maybe someone can finally beat floyd. when he 42 years old and made anotther come back in 2 years time.
    The only good guys taller than him were a one dimensional brawler in Corrales and an over the hill stationary ODH who won 4 rounds.
    All his best wins were against guys 5'8 and under where he had the height and arm length advantage. FACT.

    He isnt going to do the pull counter as effectively against a taller guy whos a southpaw and heavier is he
    Has Floyd even ever fought a southpaw taller than him who was decent? How are you the best ever without facing a decent southpaw with a height advantage
    Last edited by SugarRayCurtain; 08-27-2017, 08:11 AM.

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    • Mr Objecitivity
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      #12
      Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
      Im talking about elite guys naturally bigger/taller than him in the 147-154lbs weight classes, guys like Demetrius Andrade and even Erislandy Lara.
      Floyd would never fight opponents like that, and for good reason. Not saying Floyd wouldnt have won, but him being the best ever? I dont think so.
      You're joking right? That's like me saying Lara and Andrade won't fight Oleksandr Usyk, therefore they can't ever be the best ever.

      All Mayweather has been doing for nearly a decade now is fighting bigger sized opponents. You do realize Mayweather isn't even a natural welterweight and initially came up from featherweight, right? That alone should warrant credit for fighting bigger sized opponents. So who cares if he loses to an opponent MUCH bigger than him. That's not a blue print for beating him or a case of him not being qualified as the best ever since any sub heavyweight will lose to a much bigger sized opponent, irrespective of how good they are.

      That's a bit like saying: Wladimir Klitschko is the blueprint on how to beat Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather can't beat Klitschko. Therefore, he can't be the best ever. It makes no sense since they're not even in the same division naturally, just like how Andrade and Lara aren't in the same division as Floyd Mayweather.

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      • Brutus1
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        #13
        So the blueprint to beating Floyd is to wait until his forty year old and drag him up to a weightclass where you have the clear size advantage.

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        • SugarRayCurtain
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          #14
          Originally posted by Tabaristio
          You're joking right? That's like me saying Lara and Andrade won't fight Oleksandr Usyk, therefore they can't ever be the best ever.

          All Mayweather has been doing for nearly a decade now is fighting bigger sized opponents. You do realize Mayweather isn't even a natural welterweight and initially came up from featherweight, right? That alone should warrant credit for fighting bigger sized opponents. So who cares if he loses to an opponent MUCH bigger than him. That's not a blue print for beating him or a case of him not being qualified as the best ever since any sub heavyweight will lose to a much bigger sized opponent, irrespective of how good they are.

          That's a bit like saying: Wladimir Klitschko is the blueprint on how to beat Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather can't beat Klitschko. Therefore, he can't be the best ever. It makes no sense since they're not even in the same division naturally, just like how Andrade and Lara aren't in the same division as Floyd Mayweather.
          You dont need Klitschko to beat Floyd, you just need a taller skilled southpaw with decent power who will make Floyd come to him thus nullifying his best weapons
          He never fought opponents like that therefore he is not the best ever

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            #15
            Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
            Floyd is great but hes not the best ever.
            The Best in anything is a bs thing anyway. TBE is a marketing strategy, a brand. Just like Ali saying he was The Greatest or the Ray's were Sugar, too sweet lol. Its all bs from day 1 & shouldn't be taken THAT seriously by fans in the first place.

            NO ONE is the best ever or #1 P4P ATG. Its all bs sci fi fantasy dork sh^t. Floyd was among the best of his day, like Ali, like Ray Robinson, like Ray Leonard, like RJJ, like hundreds of guys we talk about.

            Getting caught up in sci fi fantasy bs is one of the goofiest child-like things boxing fans do here.

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              #16
              So they guy who got TKTFO in round 10 gave the blueprint while loosing? lmao OK

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              • TMT_HEAT
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                Floyd didn't even "box" I'm not even an expert and can see that. He went for the kill, got it.

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                • SugarRayCurtain
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  The Best in anything is a bs thing anyway. TBE is a marketing strategy, a brand. Just like Ali saying he was The Greatest or the Ray's were Sugar, too sweet lol. Its all bs from day 1 & shouldn't be taken THAT seriously by fans in the first place.

                  NO ONE is the best ever or #1 P4P ATG. Its all bs sci fi fantasy dork sh^t. Floyd was among the best of his day, like Ali, like Ray Robinson, like Ray Leonard, like RJJ, like hundreds of guys we talk about.

                  Getting caught up in sci fi fantasy bs is one of the goofiest child-like things boxing fans do here.
                  To me 'TBE' should beat boxers of all styles and dimensions, taller and rangy, small and strong, southpaw and tall
                  Not someone who picks opponents shorter than he is everytime so he can utilize his own advantages.

                  Guys like Sugar Ray Leonard who fought guys like Thomas Hearns, Hagler and even really big dudes like Donny Lalonde should be given more credit than FMW.

                  FMW would never have the balls to go anywhere near someone like Paul Williams where he would concede all his natural advantages, but someone like a SRL or Roy Jones would.
                  When youre the best you dont avoid certain guys, you fight everybody because there will always be a style that defeats yours.
                  Thats the difference for me.

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                  • Mr Objecitivity
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
                    You dont need Klitschko to beat Floyd, you just need a taller skilled southpaw with decent power who will make Floyd come to him thus nullifying his best weapons
                    He never fought opponents like that therefore he is not the best ever
                    There is a problem with your premise. A taller 'skilled' southpaw (relative to Floyd Mayweather Jr) doesn't exist. We have many southpaws in boxing. None that exist within Floyd Mayweather Jr's natural weight divisions have the sufficient skills to beat him. Everything else you're writing is hypothetically invented scenarios. I can also invent those scenarios.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
                      To me 'TBE' should beat boxers of all styles and dimensions, taller and rangy, small and strong, southpaw and tall
                      Not someone who picks opponents shorter than he is everytime so he can utilize his own advantages.

                      Guys like Sugar Ray Leonard who fought guys like Thomas Hearns, Hagler and even really big dudes like Donny Lalonde should be given more credit than FMW.

                      FMW would never have the balls to go anywhere near someone like Paul Williams where he would concede all his natural advantages, but someone like a SRL or Roy Jones would.
                      When youre the best you dont avoid certain guys, you fight everybody because there will always be a style that defeats yours.
                      Thats the difference for me.
                      Yawn at this splitting hairs bs. Floyd is among the best of his time. Period.

                      I love Paul Williams, he was a fun fighter & I respect how he's dealt with his life post-his accident, but Paul couldn't hold Floyd's jockstrap & he got schooled by Lara (but robbed) who's less intelligent in the ring than Floyd.

                      All any fighter can be is among the best of their era. All this dork **** measuring bs is a bunch of guys on a keyboard talking about a bunch of great men, great fighters who all did great things while acting like you can measure those great things when they are from different eras, different times in boxing history with different things in play & with different realities for all kinds of different reasons.

                      Its a fun lil child-like dork game to measure the ****s of great fighters I suppose if you enjoy measuring ****s, but I prefer to respect great fighters for their greatness during the time they were great & not try to decide who was the better movie hero Audie Murphy, John Wayne, Stallone or Arnold or some other movie hero. They were all great & measure guys from different times isn't really possible in any real way. Its all subjective bs based on what you (royally used) prefer & what you (royally used again of course) prefer is ultimately bs to history.

                      /rant lol, but I can't help myself with this goofy sci fi fantasy sh^t

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