Jeff Mayweather "I put Spence over Lomachenko. Loma hasn't done much."

[sicko]

Never understood how people get SENSITIVE over other peoples Opinion

That is Jeff's Opinion just like Teddy Atlas having Loma #1 is Teddy's Opinion and they're entitled to it...*** YOUR FEELINGS!

No such thing as a ***ing "Official P4P Ranking" it is ALL OPINIONS!

I will say this, that win over Kell Brook in the UK that is just as good if not BETTER than any win Loma and Crawford has so far in their careers!

[daggum]

Never understood how people get SENSITIVE over other peoples Opinion

That is Jeff's Opinion just like Teddy Atlas having Loma #1 is Teddy's Opinion and they're entitled to it...*** YOUR FEELINGS!

No such thing as a ***ing "Official P4P Ranking" it is ALL OPINIONS!

I will say this, that win over Kell Brook in the UK that is just as good if not BETTER than any win Loma and Crawford has so far in their careers!

you think brook coming off a ko loss is better than beating gary russell who went on to become #1 after losing to loma, or walters who crushed donaire(rigos only claim to greatness) or maybe that win doesnt count because donaire had lost 3 or 4 fights earlier but brook just lost too....what about postol who had ko'd matthysse or indongo who was unified champ. remember brooks only claim to fame is beating sean porter...is porter really better than those guys? loma beat gary russell who went on to beat a 3 division champ who just had the best win of his career and was #1 while brook beat porter who went on to beat broner lmao and lose to thurman hmmm

[Sheldon312]

Never understood how people get SENSITIVE over other peoples Opinion

That is Jeff's Opinion just like Teddy Atlas having Loma #1 is Teddy's Opinion and they're entitled to it...*** YOUR FEELINGS!

No such thing as a ***ing "Official P4P Ranking" it is ALL OPINIONS!

I will say this, that win over Kell Brook in the UK that is just as good if not BETTER than any win Loma and Crawford has so far in their careers!

I cannot really argue against this. When it comes to resume between Thurman, Spence, and Loma I personally have it.
1.Thurman/Loma
2. Spence

But I have no problem with Spence being ahead of both when it comes to resume. I am one of those guys who will take 1 A+ win over a guy with three B+ wins.

[daggum]

I cannot really argue against this. When it comes to resume between Thurman, Spence, and Loma I personally have it.
1.Thurman/Loma
2. Spence

But I have no problem with Spence being ahead of both when it comes to resume. I am one of those guys who will take 1 A+ win over a guy with three B+ wins.

how is brook an A+ win but not russell or walters? both those guys have better wins than brook or than porter who is his only legit win.

[Sheldon312]

how is brook an A+ win but not russell or walters? both those guys have better wins than brook or than porter who is his only legit win.

I said it is arguable. In terms of skills, Brook is up there with Walters and Russell

[Madison Boxing]

i used to get wound up by these guys but i find it funny now. like in the maywether boxing video predictions, everyone tipping broner to beat garcia, just a joke. everyone can see through there agendas. spence and loma are world class fighters, elite fighters imo, but spence doesnt have enough to justify being ranked over loma p4p yet. in my view that brook win was a top class win but we had lots of people ****ting on brook in the build up, the way people were talking about brook i dont know how that win justifies him being that high p4p

[Boxing Goat]

how is brook an A+ win but not russell or walters? both those guys have better wins than brook or than porter who is his only legit win.

^ This.

Spence has one good win and how good is not even known because Brook looked shot after fighting GGG to me.

[Madison Boxing]

you think brook coming off a ko loss is better than beating gary russell who went on to become #1 after losing to loma, or walters who crushed donaire(rigos only claim to greatness) or maybe that win doesnt count because donaire had lost 3 or 4 fights earlier but brook just lost too....what about postol who had ko'd matthysse or indongo who was unified champ. remember brooks only claim to fame is beating sean porter...is porter really better than those guys? loma beat gary russell who went on to beat a 3 division champ who just had the best win of his career and was #1 while brook beat porter who went on to beat broner lmao and lose to thurman hmmm

yeah its amusing how the walters win is now being revised as some half decent win, nothing special. there were quite a few tipping walters to beat loma at the time (people will deny that of course as they always do). wasnt some tiny minority. Remember he was unbeaten at that point and had knocked out donaire and was considered a true world class opponent. but now hes rubbish lol.

[Scipio2009]

At the end, yes the action was a one way beating. You need to go back and look at it again if you disagree. GGG was on his way to rendering him unconscious very shortly.

Even at the end, you're still mistaken; Brook's eye had gone, but he was still aware in the ring, still slipping shots, and still trying to have a go of it. Brook's corner saw that their fighter was all the way compromised, and looked to stop the fight, but no one jumped and rushed the ring to prevent Brook from imminent doom.

Even in that last sequence, Brook was still not getting hit flush in combination

[Scipio2009]

I disagree with this. Loma would have faster hands, better footwork, and he is much better at creating angles. I don't think he would be ****** enough to let Spence cut the ring off on him. Now, if Crawford was the same size as Spence I would still favor Spence due to the fact that Crawford wouldn't be able to handle that type of pressure. It would be like Brook but quicker.

Errol Spence Jr has seen fast hands and footwork; to think that Spence couldn't figure that out is a bit much, especially if he doesn't jump out of character and walk onto some stuff.

Spence can fight short/mid/long, can fight going/coming, can box if he needs to box and brawl if he needs to brawl. Outside of not having that Adonis Stevenson-type death touch, he's not missing much in terms of skills.

Lomachenko will have a go of it early, but I don't see him coming up with much new after maybe 4 rounds of the hypothetical fight.