Why didn't Hagler challenge himself

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  • Raggamuffin
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    #201
    Originally posted by john l
    I like McNulty but calling Hagler a coward is going way too far.Its not like he ran away from rematch with SSL he retired.
    I didn't quote that scumbag. I talk boxing with real fans and always take a **** on nationalistic, **** gobbling, armchairs with agendas. Once a red flag goes up and you clearly see the **** riding......just move on. I insult and then move on lol. I try not to, but sometimes you just have to **** and wipe.

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    • john l
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      #202
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
      I didn't quote that scumbag. I talk boxing with real fans and always take a **** on nationalistic, **** gobbling, armchairs with agendas. Once a red flag goes up and you clearly see the **** riding......just move on. I insult and then move on lol. I try not to, but sometimes you just have to **** and wipe.
      I have a little prob with"move on part" sometimes(irish temper)But I have talked with McNULTY before and liked him.I just could not disagree more with him on Haggler.

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      • New England
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        #203
        Originally posted by McNulty
        Go back and read for yourself.


        you eithe rbrought it up as a re d herring, or to imply that hagler should have moved up. why even mention a nonfactor 168 lb division?

        if you had a leg to stand on you wouldn't be acting like a baby and telling me to go find your point for you. take your L and come back stronger.

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        • soul_survivor
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          #204
          Originally posted by john l
          I agree that fightin Spinks(who I think is also ATG) would have enhanced his legacy(if he won).But I don't blame guys for not moving up as long as they have unified their div.And their div still has very good/great fighters left to fight.Hagler never ran out of great fighters to fight at 160.Also I think you have to take body shape and size some guys have a body more suited to moving up div(Hearns,Arguello)
          Hagler never fought a great mw. He fought great fighters moving up to mw. None of the genuine mw were great.

          It's a shame he didnt do what almost all great mws before him had done.

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          • john l
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            #205
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            Hagler never fought a great mw. He fought great fighters moving up to mw. None of the genuine mw were great.

            It's a shame he didnt do what almost all great mws before him had done.
            We just gonna have to agree to disagree I have already pointed out why Haggler is CLEAR ATG but what ever.

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            • TonyGe
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              #206
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              Hagler never fought a great mw. He fought great fighters moving up to mw. None of the genuine mw were great.

              It's a shame he didnt do what almost all great mws before him had done.
              Ok give me the names of all the Unified Middleweight Champions that moved up. Not guys that once held a title.

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              • Tom Cruise
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                #207
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Hagler never fought a great mw. He fought great fighters moving up to mw. None of the genuine mw were great.

                It's a shame he didnt do what almost all great mws before him had done.
                How can any MWs have proved themselves to be great when Hagler was that dominant?

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                • john l
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                  How can any MWs have proved themselves to be great when Hagler was that dominant?
                  Great point its this "lose one fight your a bum" bs that helps keep top fighters from fightin eachother

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                  • john l
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by john l
                    Great point its this "lose one fight your a bum" bs that helps keep top fighters from fightin eachother
                    Again love that clip of EC way underated fighter.Prob best ever at 175

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                    • Tom Cruise
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      Ok give me the names of all the Unified Middleweight Champions that moved up. Not guys that once held a title.
                      **** Tiger was the champ at MW, moved up to LHW and became the champ there too.

                      Maybe Greb? Mickey Walker (his weight jumping was hard to follow)?

                      Gonna be a short list though. All the old timey weight jumps were hard.

                      If you are talking champs who just moved up without winning the LHW title then the list would be longer.

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