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  • Squ□redCircle34
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    #21
    Originally posted by mlac
    I don't see how you actually disputed anything i said but writing all of that? Mares and frampton are not natural FW's.

    Santa cruz has not fought a single legit FW in his entire 35 fight career and is nearly 30 and his career is close to ending.

    thats laughable. and instead of calling out him and his promotion you say that a guy who is 5 years younger with nearly half the amount of fights is the one to blame. (or his promotion/whatever)

    you clearly have an agenda.
    Say what you want about the size of his opponents but it's also about quality!

    Is Mares and Frampton not better than every opponent that Valdez has faced? Answer that for me without bias!

    I have no agenda, Valdez is one of my favorite fighters and I call a spade a spade!

    We will see how Valdez's opponents get better after his next opponent but I'm telling you and you simply won't listen!

    Rob Arum is going to do Valdez is a disservice if he doesn't work more often with Haymon instead of just doing in house fights majority of the time!

    I'm sure if both guys can work something out together, a fight with Santa Cruz vs Valdez or Valdez vs Mares can be made!

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    • aceventura
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      #22
      Originally posted by boxfan83
      i agree wholeheartedly 100%!!! I think valdez has a better chance at landing a fight with gary russel though. Imo thats for the #1 spot 50/50 fight
      lmfao gary russell will school valdez worse than mayweather schooled canela hahaha... Better get your eyes and brains checked

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      • aceventura
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        #23
        Originally posted by mlac
        huh? Valdez has already fought some decent guy's and picked up a belt with fairly little experience...

        Leo has nearly x2 the amount of fights and is 5 years older than valdez....and has spent his entire career fighting overmatched midgets coming up from lower weight classes.

        His best win is frampton who is....you guessed it: A midget moving up from a lower weight class - who also beat him.

        You got it backwards.
        tank davis beat pedraza to get his belt in just his 16th fight... Who the hell did valdez beat to get his belt? I dont even remember?

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        • aceventura
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          #24
          Originally posted by filup79
          fight will never happen unless its on showtime/cbs and we know arum will never allow that. Espn won't shell out the money for it, and arum all of sudden wants all his fighters showcased on free tv, espn. Both mares and lsc are bigger attractions than valdez so would it be ok if pbc/haymon sent over a contract with the usual arum stipulations for valdez to sign?
          hahaha arum has no shame.... He doesnt give a damn about boxing or great matchups.... He bashes pbc who just gaves us danny vs thurman, thurman vs porter, leo vs frampton 1 and 2, spence vs brook etc.... Meanwhile espn is making manny vs horn, loma vs marriaga lmfao

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          • mlac
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            #25
            Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
            Say what you want about the size of his opponents but it's also about quality!

            Is Mares and Frampton not better than every opponent that Valdez has faced? Answer that for me without bias!

            I have no agenda, Valdez is one of my favorite fighters and I call a spade a spade!

            We will see how Valdez's opponents get better after his next opponent but I'm telling you and you simply won't listen!

            Rob Arum is going to do Valdez is a disservice if he doesn't work more often with Haymon instead of just doing in house fights majority of the time!

            I'm sure if both guys can work something out together, a fight with Santa Cruz vs Valdez or Valdez vs Mares can be made!
            Marriaga would beat the piss out of mares imo.

            I dont actually see how beating up midgets mean Leo has a better resume than Valdez? Yes Frampton has more quality than guys valdez has been in, But he also is not a real FW and also beat leo......in the first real fight leo had.....in a fight which leo was a massive favorite in.....that everyone picked him to win.

            I dont exactly see who valdez should of been fighting with 17/18/19 fights??

            please tell me who Arum should of put him in with at that stage...?

            Leo is the protected Haymon fighter who is fighting midgets and bum's, not Valdez.

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            • bigdunny1
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              #26
              can't see arum making those fights.

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              • Boxfan83
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                #27
                Originally posted by aceventura
                lmfao gary russell will school valdez worse than mayweather schooled canela hahaha... Better get your eyes and brains checked
                I can smell the fear.

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                • Boxfan83
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by aceventura
                  tank davis beat pedraza to get his belt in just his 16th fight... Who the hell did valdez beat to get his belt? I dont even remember?
                  Who the f is pedraza? lmao! Valdez would do the same to that guy if not worse and Valdez is a weight class below them you turd.

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                  • Squ□redCircle34
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mlac
                    Marriaga would beat the piss out of mares imo.

                    I dont actually see how beating up midgets mean Leo has a better resume than Valdez? Yes Frampton has more quality than guys valdez has been in, But he also is not a real FW and also beat leo......in the first real fight leo had.....in a fight which leo was a massive favorite in.....that everyone picked him to win.

                    I dont exactly see who valdez should of been fighting with 17/18/19 fights??

                    please tell me who Arum should of put him in with at that stage...?

                    Leo is the protected Haymon fighter who is fighting midgets and bum's, not Valdez.
                    I respect your opinion but I disagree to agree!

                    Mares would outbox Marriaga like he did Jesus Cuellar! Too much experience, speed and techniques!

                    Again, you call them midgets but they are still world champion level fighters who would clear out Valdez's resume!

                    Your calling them midgets only cuz Cruz is a very tall 126 guy!..

                    The fact of the matter is Mares and Frampton are much better quality opponents than what Valdez has faced, FACT!

                    Losing to Frampton isn't a shameful thing, he's a quality champion and got Leo to fight his fight but in the rematch we saw Leo show some dimensions to his game!..

                    Leo showed in the rematch that he can box, counter and fight behind a game plan instead of just grinding his opponents behind volume punches which is how he beat Frampton!

                    I agree that Valdez for the amount fights he has, his win in Marriage is better than the any win that Leo has with the same amount fights!


                    Your in a losing argument and would be wise to just say that well let's see how Valdez's career unfolds!

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                    • aceventura
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by boxfan83
                      who the f is pedraza? Lmao! Valdez would do the same to that guy if not worse and valdez is a weight class below them you turd.
                      who the hell did valdez beat to win his belt lmfao? Some bum that pedraza would school like a little boy hahaha...

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