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  • Eff Pandas
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    #41
    I have serious doubts Arum would allow that fight to happen for the risk to Valdez losing, but maybe because he won't pay enough to make it happen on ESPN & he won't allow Valdez to take more money for that fight to happen elsewhere.

    I think all the fighters would be cool with making the fight doe. But the business of boxing consistently f#cks sh^t up.

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    • Boxfan83
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      #42
      Originally posted by r1onnie2
      Say what you want to about Gary Russell Jr. but none of these dudes at 126 mention his name at all. They don't want that work.
      Lol Oscar Valdez has called him out numerous times. Its Russel that fights TBD once a year.

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      • Boxfan83
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        #43
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        I have serious doubts Arum would allow that fight to happen for the risk to Valdez losing, but maybe because he won't pay enough to make it happen on ESPN & he won't allow Valdez to take more money for that fight to happen elsewhere.

        I think all the fighters would be cool with making the fight doe. But the business of boxing consistently f#cks sh^t up.
        Thats where I think people are misguided by Arum. He will sacrifice a guy for the right $$$ but it has to make financial sense to him. I honestly think Al Haymon is more protecting of his guys. Arum is a stubborn old mule though and wont pick up the phone to negotiate. If Haymon wanted to pit his fighter against Arums, hed have to call and make a nice round number offer. Problem is, a guy like Valdez is talent, a lot more talented than LSC and Mares. Russel is a toss up imo...

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #44
          Originally posted by Boxfan83
          Thats where I think people are misguided by Arum. He will sacrifice a guy for the right $$$ but it has to make financial sense to him.
          Examples of the right price for a top guy of his being reached & it being promoted by someone other than him/on a different network then the one he's working with?

          Only one I can think of is Manny vs Floyd, but that still took years to make + was crazy money. I'm sure there are more, but I'm not recalling any.

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            #45
            Valdez is the truth i think he beats leo and abner

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            • Boxfan83
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              #46
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Examples of the right price for a top guy of his being reached & it being promoted by someone other than him/on a different network then the one he's working with?

              Only one I can think of is Manny vs Floyd, but that still took years to make + was crazy money. I'm sure there are more, but I'm not recalling any.
              Loma vs Russel

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                #47
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                Loma vs Russel
                I wouldn't say Loma was much of anything at that point when he was 1-1. He was in theory a good fighter more than proven to be a good fighter even in spite of the Olympic medals.

                And even then if we count its 2 fights?. Thats it lol?

                And I mean he's kinda notorious for not working well with others. So if he works with an outside guy he's gonna want options or he's gonna wanna lowball people. And if he's willing to let a legit draw go to another promoter he wants way more money then usual & no options. So its a position where not much can happen within those boundaries in the first place.

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                • aceventura
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  neither was indongo felix diaz john molina hank lundy thomas dulorme. Only pbc only does in house fights only
                  all those guys are c level guys lmfao..... Pbc has many stars so they can.... Top rank and gb have no one...

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                  • Catrin
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                    #49
                    This fights should happen sometime next year! OV is ready...

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                    • killakali
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by aceventura
                      all those guys are c level guys lmfao..... Pbc has many stars so they can.... Top rank and gb have no one...
                      thats why we got danny garcia vs samuel Vargas, adonis Stevenson vs dukhotsky and karpency and Bika. Wilder vs duhuapa Washington spzilka quillin vs Mora twice.
                      , quillin vs the Australian stripper who went out on a stripper, Broner vs theophane, tank davis vs fonseca, Lara vs Delvin rodriguez Lara vs ishe smith, joe many more examples do U need bro?

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