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  • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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    #21
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    Merchant: So why don't you just fight Maywether in November

    Mosley: As I'm sitting here now my tooth is loose so I don't know if I have to go to the dentist.

    LMAO I mean could you blame these guys for ducking and not wanting to fight a "prime" Mayweather? He was a career killer and they wanted no parts. When be was promoted by Arum it was a guy named Philip Ndou 31-1 30ks. Floyd dismantled him easily. He beat all the biggest punchers.

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    • ironmt
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      #22
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      usually you can best identify that with the benefit of hindsight, but the answer is..... when he starts performing at the top of his game..... it is different for everyone, and not tied to age.....

      some guys start late, some guys develop late

      losing to McGregor will affect Mayweather's legacy as much as losing to Horn affected Pacquiao's..... no big deal..... their wins are already in the bank, and they are both getting along in age

      Mayweather won't lose
      So with your above provided description of what a prime fighter Is, It was clearly a lie when you claimed Paquiao beat an OLD Marco Antonio Barrera when Barrera was 29 years of age?

      Considering Barrera was coming off of the best run of wins In his career against Hamed, Sanchez, Morales, Tapia and Kelley and then went on to beat Ayala, Morales and Juarez after losing to Pacquiao.

      If Floyd loses his upcoming fight to Mcgregor you can believe that that one particular fight will be what he Is most remembered for.

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      • iamboxing
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        #23
        Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
        Lmao I want what you're smoking. How doesnt his losses count added with his positive drug test? I think Mayweather is already remembered more fondly than RJJ. Rjj has became more of a punchline and joke in the last 10yrs. Where have you been. Floyd will always be remembered greater and he will be held to higher standards because of that. Just look at when Roy Jones charged 50$ to watch him fight a can. No one batted a eye because RJJ doesn't matter anymore he's bum status for top boxers now.
        People still remember 90s RJJ because he was in great fights and was entertaining. Let's be honest, no one is watching Mayweather's boring 12 round decision fights - even his biggest fans don't re-watch his fights, they're lying if they say they do.

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        • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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          #24
          [QUOTE=iamboxing;17951781Let's be honest, no one is watching Mayweather's boring 12 round decision fights - even his biggest fans don't re-watch his fights, they're lying if they say they do.[/QUOTE]

          He owns 4 of the top 5 ppvs of all time lol.

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          • j.razor
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            #25
            Originally posted by iamboxing
            Ali's loss to Holmes and Berbick doesn't diminish his legacy, same as Roy's terrible loss streak after Tarver. They were both recognised as great way before those fights. The difference is Mayweather's greatness is still disputed long after he retired because of his lacklustre and often dull performances. Neutral boxing fans don't remember him as fondly as they do Ali and RJJ and other ATGs. A loss against a 0 boxing experience fighter will just open him to ridicule for the rest of his life because his legacy doesn't stand the test of time.
            Are you okay? Did you bump your head or something? "lackluster and often dull performances"? The man was a master & a pleasure to watch, you ungrateful & disrespectful. Floyd did more than those other fighters did & now we have to wait & see if anyone can do more than Floyd has. SMH...NEVER do "they" give this man credit.

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            • j.razor
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              #26
              Originally posted by ironmt
              Since the criteria for greatness Is who you beat with consideration to when and how, what are Floyd's best wins and how many were In their prime?
              Don't forget the fighters that did not want to fight him in his early yrs.... When Floyd he was hitting the bank hard then they ALL wanted to fight him.

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              • j.razor
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                #27
                Originally posted by Thraxox
                Ancient Pacquiao in a stinkfest.
                That was Jeff Horn.

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                • ironmt
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by j.razor
                  Don't forget the fighters that did not want to fight him in his early yrs.... When Floyd he was hitting the bank hard then they ALL wanted to fight him.
                  I have no problem giving Floyd the props he deserves as a boxer as he Is a great defensive fighter and was a good offensive fighter In the lower weight classes. I don't like his personality and a lot of It Is nothing more than his attempt to sell fights. You also have to remember Floyd said a lot of things In his career that were nothing but lies and contradictions.

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                  • B Phontain
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by iamboxing
                    Ali's loss to Holmes and Berbick doesn't diminish his legacy, same as Roy's terrible loss streak after Tarver. They were both recognised as great way before those fights. The difference is Mayweather's greatness is still disputed long after he retired because of his lacklustre and often dull performances. Neutral boxing fans don't remember him as fondly as they do Ali and RJJ and other ATGs. A loss against a 0 boxing experience fighter will just open him to ridicule for the rest of his life because his legacy doesn't stand the test of time.
                    Not true. I remember VIVIDLY the "I told you Roy wasn't ****" "see that's why he was scared or real challenges" " that's what happens when you cherry pick your career" chants after he was ko'd by tarver. The difference between those fighters and Floyd is the birth of social media. Can you imagine if Jones as popular as he was back then got ktfo like that in this day and age?

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                    • B Phontain
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by iamboxing
                      People still remember 90s RJJ because he was in great fights and was entertaining. Let's be honest, no one is watching Mayweather's boring 12 round decision fights - even his biggest fans don't re-watch his fights, they're lying if they say they do.
                      I literally just got done watching Floyd vs Judah again on YouTube. There's a channel that airs 24 Floyd fights I guess to pump up mayweather vs McGregor. There's one for Pacquiao too

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