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  • Thraxox
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    #11
    Originally posted by ironmt
    Since the criteria for greatness Is who you beat with consideration to when and how, what are Floyd's best wins and how many were In their prime?
    Ancient Pacquiao in a stinkfest.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      Of course Pac turds are going to agree with the article, because he's in the process of damaging his right now. He's already fallen way behind Mayweather in most peoples opinion. The same guy that was once voted greater than Ali in an online poll.
      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 08-15-2017, 04:41 AM.

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      • Scopedog
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        #13
        There's degrees to this, obviously careers like Hopkins and Foreman where they continued to achieve well past their prime are going to be lauded, careers that go on just a little too long like Wlad or someone like Joe Louis isn't going to take the tarnish off of a spectacular legacy. But then you get the extreme cases, such as Holyfield or most pertinently, Roy Jones. Holyfield might just about get away with it, but Jones' insane insistence on continuing to fight despite not having it anymore, to the point where he's getting brutally knocked out by guys that probably wouldn't have even been able to touch him in his prime, is definitely casting shadow on his legacy.

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #14
          Originally posted by ironmt
          When would you say a fighter Is In his prime? Unfortunately, the clock doesn't stop ticking. If Floyd should somehow lose to Mcgregor, will that effect his legacy?

          usually you can best identify that with the benefit of hindsight, but the answer is..... when he starts performing at the top of his game..... it is different for everyone, and not tied to age.....

          some guys start late, some guys develop late

          losing to McGregor will affect Mayweather's legacy as much as losing to Horn affected Pacquiao's..... no big deal..... their wins are already in the bank, and they are both getting along in age

          Mayweather won't lose

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          • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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            #15
            Originally posted by iamboxing
            same as Roy's terrible loss streak after Tarver. . Neutral boxing fans don't remember him as fondly as they do Ali and RJJ and other ATGs. .
            Lmao I want what you're smoking. How doesnt his losses count added with his positive drug test? I think Mayweather is already remembered more fondly than RJJ. Rjj has became more of a punchline and joke in the last 10yrs. Where have you been. Floyd will always be remembered greater and he will be held to higher standards because of that. Just look at when Roy Jones charged 50$ to watch him fight a can. No one batted a eye because RJJ doesn't matter anymore he's bum status for top boxers now.

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            • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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              #16
              Boxing is the only sport that base legacy of popularity lol. Losses don't matter for certain fighters because they were liked and fan favorites..Everytime Pacquiao lost y'all said it didn't matter lol. The word prime is mainly used to dicredit another's fighters win. For example Mosley was #2 p4p when Floyd faced him. Was Mosley in his prime?

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              • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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                #17
                Originally posted by ironmt
                Since the criteria for greatness Is who you beat with consideration to when and how, what are Floyd's best wins and how many were In their prime?
                How many did Pacquiao beat in his prime that didn't also beat him lol?
                Manfredy Gatti Canelo Hatton Corrales Castillo Judah Madaina Cotto.

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                • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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                  #18
                  back to “Money” Mayweather. I decided to watch the Corrales-Mayweather fight one more and I never notice this but, Floyd called out Joel Cassamayor and “Prince” Naseem Hamed. After beating the bigger, undefeated Corrales, Floyd wanted yet another dangerous opponent in “Prince” Naseem. Who was also undefeated at the time. Floyd even expressed how he’ll fight “Prince” Naseem at a catch weight of 128 to favor the “Prince.” Larry Merchant went on to say to Floyd after the fight “Now Floyd, you know after this performance “Prince” Naseem Hamed is not going to want to fight you

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                  • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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                    #19
                    After the Rematch with Castillo Floyd said he’s open to fighting Stevie Johnson, and Juan Lascano two avoided fighters themselves. January 22, 2005 the post Henry Breseles fight, Floyd Mayweather said he just wanted to fight the best they got there. He threw Gatti’s name in the mix, he called out Kostya Tszyu again for a second time, but he called out the two names that stood out to me the most. “Sugar” Shane Mosley and “The Golden Boy” Oscar De La Hoya. Even though Floyd called out Mosley back in 1998 after Floyd beat Genaro Hernandez.

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                    • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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                      #20
                      "I'll stomp on Kostya Tszyu" PBF
                      Lmao I understand why these guys were SCARED of young Floyd. They didn't want to fight him point blank period.

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