Wilder vs. Stiverne 2 about to be finalized very, very soon, SMH

[Raggamuffin]

Meanwhile, he fights nobodies for $1M paydays and gets no respect in the boxing community. Joshua is the real HW champ as far as I and most other fans are concerned.

You don't even know what a champion is or how one becomes champion.

The only people that he gets no respect from are Joshua's fans because he's a threat. How do I know? You never brought up Joshua's ppv stats when he fought Martin or Breazeale.

The fact that Joshua is a draw(and I'm happy for him) only makes it worse because it allows guys like you to write posts like the above.

Sooner or later Joshua won't be fighting 41 year old guy or some inferior hand picked Hearn stooge. Hearn makes sure his cash cow is in winnable fights. Fight Pulev, ages Ortiz and hope Wilder loses. That's Hearns recipe for success. The new and improved U.K's Rock Newman.

[GhostofDempsey]

You don't even know what a champion is or how one becomes champion.

The only people that he gets no respect from are Joshua's fans because he's a threat. How do I know? You never brought up Joshua's ppv stats when he fought Martin or Breazeale.

The fact that Joshua is a draw(and I'm happy for him) only makes it worse because it allows guys like you to write posts like the above.

Sooner or later Joshua won't be fighting 41 year old guy or some inferior hand picked Hearn stooge. Hearn makes sure his cash cow is in winnable fights. Fight Pulev, ages Ortiz and hope Wilder loses. That's Hearns recipe for success. The new and improved U.K's Rock Newman.

Meanwhile, tell us all about Wilder's best wins and how many seats he can fill on his own for a given venue. You need to know your worth in boxing, and right now, Wilder is worth a whole lot less than Joshua in terms of ratings, ticket sales and viewership. Joshua has half as many fights and already has a bigger win on his resume.

[LITTLE JOE]

Each time you watch a Wilder fight, it's an opportunity to see the hardest punching man on the planet in action.

Of course none of these contenders can give him a real challenge, but that's not his fault.

The glorious march towards unification continues.

I really like Wilder and have been following him for years.I hope he unifies the division but am not really excited for this fight.I'm just not sure how fighting the fighters he has been is going to get him ready for Joshua. Wilder still has major defensive problems when backing up.I have seen no improvement in that facet of his game.His power has saved him.Sometimes that's all it takes.We will see.

[Kigali]

I really like Wilder and have been following him for years.I hope he unifies the division but am not really excited for this fight.I'm just not sure how fighting the fighters he has been is going to get him ready for Joshua. Wilder still has major defensive problems when backing up.I have seen no improvement in that facet of his game.His power has saved him.Sometimes that's all it takes.We will see.

As does Joshua

The difference is Joshua is SLOW as hell and has poor stamina.

It's a lot easier to nail Joshua than Wilder.

[Kigali]

Meanwhile, tell us all about Wilder's best wins and how many seats he can fill on his own for a given venue. You need to know your worth in boxing, and right now, Wilder is worth a whole lot less than Joshua in terms of ratings, ticket sales and viewership. Joshua has half as many fights and already has a bigger win on his resume.

Why don't you tell us why Dempsey was so scared of Black fighters instead of talking **** about Wilder.

[paulf]

If Stiverne wouldnt step aside then he wouldnt step aside. Make this **** ASAP and be done with it.

[Raggamuffin]

I remember Rock Newman and Bowe throwing the title away and hoping that Lewis lost. And Lewis did lose. I remember when Lewis was being avoided by Bowe before that. Lewis because of his skills lasted through the dark hours of the sport and became a HOF fighter. Same with Wlad. So now you know why I cringe when I see Joshua's fans post that "draw" bull**** and how they look down on Wilder and other heavies. Foh. I watch fights. No fight was ever won on a message board. None!!!

[NYG]

Wilder probably KOs him

[NYG]

How can you say Wilder has defensive problems but not Joshua? Joshua got rocked by Wlad and looked like a clown, couldve lost that fight easily

[Raggamuffin]

Meanwhile, tell us all about Wilder's best wins and how many seats he can fill on his own for a given venue. You need to know your worth in boxing, and right now, Wilder is worth a whole lot less than Joshua in terms of ratings, ticket sales and viewership. Joshua has half as many fights and already has a bigger win on his resume.

If I did that then I'd have to tell you how many fans Mayorga and Baldomir had BEFORE they faced Forrest and Judah.

I'd have to do that to Pac BEFORE he faced Ledwaba. I'd have to do that to every fighter who wasn't the draw or a draw before they fought the champion. You just cheapened the sport with your sorry ass outlook on ratings and viewership and the infamous "half the fights" comments.

In other words talk that **** to someone who gives a **** ass about what you're saying.

I want Joshua Wilder to happen and you want to make sure that Wilder either loses, takes less than Joshua, fight in the U.K for some reason or fight who you deem worthy. Foh