Guess they'll be fighting in 8 Oz. gloves.

[War Room]

MMA has been around in its current form for 20+ years. And most of the stuff I'm talking about is the injuries we know about & the guys I see with that fat tongue thing. That stuff is all over in boxing & not around MMA hardly ever. Boxers are dying every few months. MMA guys die more from crazy weight loss tactics then due to fight damage & cats are taking elbows & knees to the head not just fists.

Granted there could be more brain damage in the "healthy" seeming athletes then we are able to view currently, but the known damage leans very strongly to boxing being more unhealthy to the human brain & logically it would seem that the volume of punches boxers take in comparison to most other combat sports competitors makes me believe that volume is in play as is the recovery time boxers are given after seriously injured.

I agree MMA has been around for a minute, but the 1st few years those guys had like one fight then disappeared. It wasn't until Zuffa took over that MMA really began as a sport and thats approx 16 years?

I haven't heard of the fat tongue thing before. Sounds bad!

In my experience of watching boxing, the deaths are from guys trying to lose too much weight. I remember those weirdo trainers in Asia that starve fighters of water thinking they get fight strong from it.

Not so sure boxers are dying every few months. This year we've had one and it was an former UFC fighter. Last year, there was one. Here are a few sources...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deaths_due_to_injuries_sustained_in_boxing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_due_to_injuries_sustained_in_boxing

Granted, those sources aren't probably entirely accurate considering there is probably deaths in 3rd world countries not reporting, but that takes me back to my point about Asia. Not sure how out-dated I am on that though. I don't watch boxing as much as I used to.

[CatchAndShoot]

Only idiots would think he has a good shot at winning. It's like if Floyd were to fight him in the octagon he would get murked
I bet they cry that he needs to rematch in the octogon or something like that

I actually made a thread about that. I bet you anything, after floyd disposes of him like a used condom, he'll get on the mic and challenge him to an mma match.

[Chuckguy]

I actually made a thread about that. I bet you anything, after floyd disposes of him like a used condom, he'll get on the mic and challenge him to an mma match.

He already said it in the press tour bro.

[CatchAndShoot]

He already said it in the press tour bro.

Mods, ban this clown.

[sicko]

Haven't voted yet but they will likely approve it. Mayweather runs boxing in Nevada they give him whatever the *** he wants because he generates so much

[Chuckguy]

Mods, ban this clown.

Yes. Ben me for replying in a thread

[Eff Pandas]

I agree MMA has been around for a minute, but the 1st few years those guys had like one fight then disappeared. It wasn't until Zuffa took over that MMA really began as a sport and thats approx 16 years?

People were getting hit in the head with no gloves or small gloves before Zuffa came along & in longer bouts with less weight divisions so if anything it was worse back in the day.

I haven't heard of the fat tongue thing before. Sounds bad!

LOL oh you've heard it. I actually don't know if there is a better name for this issue than fat tongue, I imagine there is, but I don't happen to know it. But if you've heard James Toney or Terry Norris or plenty of guys who've been boxing for awhile talk a good % of them seem to have that issue to some degree. Some like Toney you can barely understand their words & others are more mild like Roy Jones that you notice more if you listen to them 10, 15, 20 years ago vs now.

In my experience of watching boxing, the deaths are from guys trying to lose too much weight. I remember those weirdo trainers in Asia that starve fighters of water thinking they get fight strong from it.

I think hydration plays a part for sure. But I do believe that due to the number of former wrestlers in MMA who have aggressive weight loss tactics this isn't the real issue cuz deaths happen so seldom in MMA & like I said when they do happen they usually happen BEFORE the fight due to the aggressive weight loss habits. In fact if you pay any attention there have been a handful of fights canceled due to fighters being unable to fight post-weigh in just in recent months or due to issues that could have been helped along due to weight loss tactics.

Not so sure boxers are dying every few months. This year we've had one and it was an former UFC fighter. Last year, there was one.

Ironically the ex-UFC guy, Tim Hague, died in a boxing match.

This guy died just a week & change ago.
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/434265

It happens way more often then you hear about I assure you & certainly more than 12 boxers (1 a month) are dying every year, although I can't find a website or stats to confirm that at the moment.

[Rip Chudd]

Because 90% of people on this site have never boxed much less been inside a boxing gym in their lives. pillows, i swear

[War Room]

LOL oh you've heard it. I actually don't know if there is a better name for this issue than fat tongue, I imagine there is, but I don't happen to know it. But if you've heard James Toney or Terry Norris or plenty of guys who've been boxing for awhile talk a good % of them seem to have that issue to some degree. Some like Toney you can barely understand their words & others are more mild like Roy Jones that you notice more if you listen to them 10, 15, 20 years ago vs now.

Gotcha!

Ironically the ex-UFC guy, Tim Hague, died in a boxing match.

True, but there was a bit of a scandal with Canada letting Hague fight though.

He was let go from UFC for not passing the physical health requirements and he was taking a ton of damage. From 2015-2016 he was knocked out 4x in MMA.

Boxing has a 6 month wait period (or last I checked) from KO's. MMA is like 4 or less in some cases (2 and change in his case).

He was knocked out 9x in MMA. The damage was already done by the time he got to boxing. Can't legitimately blame boxing for his last two ko's out of 11.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Hague-19599

[Eff Pandas]

True, but there was a bit of a scandal with Canada letting Hague fight though.

He was let go from UFC for not passing the physical health requirements and he was taking a ton of damage. From 2015-2016 he was knocked out 4x in MMA.

Boxing has a 6 month wait period (or last I checked) from KO's. MMA is like 4 or less in some cases (2 and change in his case).

He was knocked out 9x in MMA. The damage was already done by the time he got to boxing. Can't legitimately blame boxing for his last two ko's out of 11.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Hague-19599

Well in fairness I'm not debating where he received most of his damage from. I'm talking about the sport he died while competing in. But yea its a safe bet he received most of his damage previous to dying in a boxing ring, if we could measure it, from the sport he competed in the most.

And idk about those suspensions time tables, but admittedly I don't pay much attention to that. I definitely am of the opinion suspensions should be longer (12mos+) for being legit KO'd & repeatedly legit KO's should have even longer suspensions. And I'd even go so far to say that a certain number of legit KO's in ones career should end your career. What that number is is debatable, but for an easy example no one should be getting legit KO'd more than 10 times in their professional boxing career. Also concussions should have a limit put on how many of those one can receive in ones career & have a long suspension (1yr+) if one has received that sorta damage.