Why is Erik Morales generally rated higher than Marquez?

[Johnny Steele]

because he beat prime barrera and prime pac. prime wins are what hold most weight, no floyd pity points

Asides from lucas mathyse what fighters do you actually like daggum.

I'm actually intereseted cos i think you're just a lousy hater.

[Lester Tutor]

Because Marquez refused a potential 5 once VADA testing was mentioned. Suddenly he lost interest.

Why did Pacquiao "refuse" testing with Floyd?

#Top Rank

[GhostofDempsey]

Ok, who has been caught with PED usage, Marquez or Morales?

Who had Memo in their corner? The guy who boasted he could concoct undetectable PEDs? Who suddenly had big punching power and bulging muscles at age 40 with acne on his back, chest and shoulders that wasn't there before? Who refused a rematch for a 5th fight?

[Lester Tutor]

because he beat prime barrera and prime pac. prime wins are what hold most weight, no floyd pity points

How come Marquez, Barrera, and Morales always speak highly and positive about Mayweather Jr.?

[Larry the boss]

Morales beat both Pacquiao and Barrera arguably both in their primes at the time. he is a legend. His losses only started piling up at the end of his career when he was way past it. Had he retired after the Pacquiao win he would have been 48-2, beating every single opponent he had ever faced.

Losses to lesser knowns like Norwood and Chris John in the middle of his career also further cement Morales as a step above Marquez. Morales = consistent.

so did Jmm

[Lester Tutor]

Who had Memo in their corner? The guy who boasted he could concoct undetectable PEDs? Who suddenly had big punching power and bulging muscles at age 40 with acne on his back, chest and shoulders that wasn't there before? Who refused a rematch for a 5th fight?

Why was HBO associated with Victor Conte or Thomas Hauser and affiliates citing Conte regarding PEDs after Conte was convicted?! Lol

You guys make this easy at your own game. Yeah Memo helped with PEDs for Chavez Jr. At 164.5 when UFC like McGregor drain 30lbs and remarkably have power on fight night...

[lparm]

Erik is an absolute legend ATG. The reason he's better than JMM is because he beat p4p greats in their prime. Hell even in defeat Erik never cried he just got on with it unlike the piss drinker.

[Lester Tutor]

so did Jmm

This whole thread is a sea of PAC boys trying to discredit Marquez with the belief that Morales was better... even though guys like Hopkins or Foreman fighting +40 years of age get a pass...

Miraculously it's not possible with Mexicans so they assume it's all juicing

This is what happens when Marquez put ole boy to sleep!

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Both were great but I'd personally rank JMM higher.

[iamboxing]

Morales vs Maidana is an example of how tough Morales was even past his prime. In the 00s he was exhilirating and one round of Barrera vs Morales is greater than JMM's entire fight library. Marquez was a bore to be honest.