Why is Erik Morales generally rated higher than Marquez?

[Mitchell Kane]

Because Morales accomplished more early on while it took JMM longer?

Marquez had the Norwood loss, turned down the Pacquiao rematch, then the Chris John debacle.

Marquez took the long road.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

The thing is anthony that mexicans used to get credit for being brave and tough.

Marquez is an old guy. but he is definitely a "modern fighter"
a far as menatlity goes. He is a *****..

When did Chavez (sr) Barrera, Morales, Olivares, Lopez
etc ever duck?

You have modern mexican fighters like Johny Gonzalez, Jorge Arce, Margarito etc That duck nobody.

Then you have the f@ggots...
Chavez (jr) Canelo, Marquez etc

Oh yeah.

Those old school guys would take them all on- win, lose or draw which is what any truly great fighter should do. They definitely had the machismo thing going and Morales was no exception. Good post.

[GhostofDempsey]

Morales was able to beat a fresher version of Pac without the aid of PEDs. His trilogy with Barrera is epic and one of the greatest trilogies in boxing. He later got caught taking an illegal fat burner, but it wasn't on the level of whatever shyt Marquez was juicing in 2012. Marquez also priced himself out of fight with Hamed and Morales.

[Madison Boxing]

two fo my fave boxers, true warriors. hard to split the two of them in terms of achievements.

[Lester Tutor]

I didn't know MAB turned pro that young. If you're trying to contest my words, you just gave me additional ammunition to shoot you with. Turn pro young, get shot young especially when you have wars like MAB and Morales did with each other.

Morales and MAB left something in the ring after the trilogy. Neither of them were the same fighter after the fought each other the 2nd time, never mind the 3rd.

Every fighter in history leaves something in the ring after 2-3 fights with another guy unless its Ray Robinson.

Contest? I'm telling you age. Here's another fact for you since we're on Mexican fighters, JCC also started pro at 16 like Morales. What was JCC's record and who did he fight that would rival Barrera or Morales' resume?

Also Floyd Jr. was one of Whitaker's preferred teens to spar and help him out

[daggum]

because he beat prime barrera and prime pac. prime wins are what hold most weight, no floyd pity points

[Lester Tutor]

Morales was able to beat a fresher version of Pac without the aid of PEDs. His trilogy with Barrera is epic and one of the greatest trilogies in boxing. He later got caught taking an illegal fat burner, but it wasn't on the level of whatever shyt Marquez was juicing in 2012. Marquez also priced himself out of fight with Hamed and Morales.

Did Marquez get caught with PEDs in 2012? Why would Top Rank give up on a potential 5 if drug testing was suspect?

[GhostofDempsey]

Did Marquez get caught with PEDs in 2012? Why would Top Rank give up on a potential 5 if drug testing was suspect?

Because Marquez refused a potential 5 once VADA testing was mentioned. Suddenly he lost interest.

[Johnny Steele]

Morales was able to beat a fresher version of Pac without the aid of PEDs. His trilogy with Barrera is epic and one of the greatest trilogies in boxing. He later got caught taking an illegal fat burner, but it wasn't on the level of whatever shyt Marquez was juicing in 2012. Marquez also priced himself out of fight with Hamed and Morales.

Good post.

Marquez is a classless sh'ithouse.

[Lester Tutor]

Because Marquez refused a potential 5 once VADA testing was mentioned. Suddenly he lost interest.

Ok, who has been caught with PED usage, Marquez or Morales?