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  • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    Which is why I am an advocate for Charlo vs. Jacobs! I don't want to see Charlo sit on the shelf like Heiland did, or Khurtsidze did! They both work with Haymon, so go ahead and make it happen! It should do well at the Barclays!
    Charlo is the WBC mando

    You can't sit him on the shelf...without getting stripped.

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    • Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
      Willing to bet all of my points; you should have no issues covering the bet...deal???
      Keep your points friend...you'll need them

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      • Originally posted by Leonis View Post
        Monroe was not top 10 at the time. Rosado i agree was the weakest of all ranked opponents that ggg fought but still not worst than overrated jey rock who is considered a credible win for Charlo.
        Murrey was 100% legit.
        If middleweight was weak why didn't Charlo move up to clean it up instead of starving himself to death to make 154?
        Middleweight division has always been and will always be the most competitive division in boxing, you only think its weak because the fighters are foreign and you dont know them.
        Monroe Stevens and Rosado whether you like it or not are some of the best middleweights America has produced lately. Also, Kid Chocolate as im sure you know never wanted any part of ggg.
        Geale Lemieux Jacobs Murrey Ouma Brook Macklin and Rubio were all 100% legit opponents.

        Abel is correct on that. Charlo should build up his brand and get some credible wins instead of sitting on his arse waiting for ggg who already has atleast 2 fights lined up. I cant see why a boxing fun would disagree on that.
        I was actually going to respond to you, until I read that. You clearly know nothing about boxing.

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        • Originally posted by Kigali View Post
          Keep your points friend...you'll need them
          Smart choice lol

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          • Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
            I was actually going to respond to you, until I read that. You clearly know nothing about boxing.
            I repeat. Middleweight division has always been and will always be the most competitive division in boxing. Both on professional and amateur boxing.
            The division of the average man with the biggest amount of practising boxers.
            I surely know more about boxing than you.

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            • Originally posted by Leonis View Post
              I repeat. Middleweight division has always been and will always be the most competitive division in boxing. Both on professional and amateur boxing.
              The division of the average man with the biggest amount of practising boxers.
              I surely know more about boxing than you.
              BJ Saunders is the WBO champ. Not long ago, Wade was GGG Mando. My friend, these are clear indications that this div has been ass for quite some time. Now with Charlo and Canelo campaigning at 160 full time, the div got some life. back when Bernard dominated the div you'd have a solid argument, but you're 15 years too late.

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              • Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
                BJ Saunders is the WBO champ. Not long ago, Wade was GGG Mando. My friend, these are clear indications that this div has been ass for quite some time. Now with Charlo and Canelo campaigning at 160 full time, the div got some life. back when Bernard dominated the div you'd have a solid argument, but you're 15 years too late.
                Um no. When Hopkins was champion it was considered to be a very weak division too. This is why I keep drawing the parallel between GGG and Hops. Everyone said Hopkins didn't face anyone (and if you look at the fighters he did face it wasn't completely unfair argument, like w/Golovkin) prior to the Tito fight. Hops was the underdog and you can still see the predictions of the experts, something like 2 to 1 in Tito's favor. Hopkins didn't get the respect until he beat Trinidad. I think something similar is going to happen for Golovkin if he wins. He'll finally get a level of respect he hasn't quite got yet.

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                • Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                  Charlo is the WBC mando

                  You can't sit him on the shelf...without getting stripped.
                  How long was Heiland in the #1 spot? He never got to fight GGG, and now he never will.

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                  • Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post
                    BJ Saunders is the WBO champ. Not long ago, Wade was GGG Mando. My friend, these are clear indications that this div has been ass for quite some time. Now with Charlo and Canelo campaigning at 160 full time, the div got some life. back when Bernard dominated the div you'd have a solid argument, but you're 15 years too late.
                    My man i dont mean to be negative and disagree with you but i dont think you been following the division last few years.
                    Sergio Martinez Felix Sturm Daniel Geal Dimitri Pirog Kid Chocolate Andy Lee Hassan Ndam David Lemieux Danny Jacobs and even Billy Joe to name a few in the last 4 years.
                    This division has never been sort of talent its just that most of them are foreign and the American public dont know them.
                    Hopefully with Canelo Charlo and Andrade moving up it will get more attention.
                    You should keep an eye on Derevyachenko too he looks like a top notch fighter to me and soon he gets a title shot.
                    After ggg retires/moves up there will be a slaughtery in the division

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                    • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                      How long was Heiland in the #1 spot? He never got to fight GGG, and now he never will.
                      Had Golovkin fought Heiland he would have been butchered by everyone but his fanatical fans. I'm a fan but I won't sacrifice objectivity for fandom. In his last four fights the guy beat:

                      date opponent record
                      2017-04-21 Mateo Damian Veron 26 18 3
                      2016-09-09 Angel Hernandez 17 18 1
                      2016-04-09 Martin Fidel Rios 17 8 3
                      2015-09-19 Claudio Ariel Abalos 29 13 3

                      Total combined record of 89-57-10. This gets you to be the #1 contender!!?? The only fight out of Argentina was against the guy with a losing record.

                      Utterly ridiculous that this guy was in an elimination bout. Sorry but beating him in my book doesn't get you a shot at the MW champion.

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