Comments Thread For: Arum: UFC Has Taught Us a Loss Isn't Death Sentence for Fighters

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  • j.razor
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    #11
    If this is the case bob then why wont you put your fighters against the best instead of all the in-house fighting??

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    • 1hourRun
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      #12
      Originally posted by j.razor
      If this is the case bob then why wont you put your fighters against the best instead of all the in-house fighting??
      Does Dana Whites company cross promote with that other low budget promotion on Spike? whats it called again? I don't even know.

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      • HarvardBlue
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        #13
        Some of the greatest boxers have lost so I don't know why Arum need to attribute that to the UFC.

        If anything the UFC taught us that you shouldn't hype anyone up because if you do and they lose people will celebrate more than usual... I'm looking at you Ms. Rousey.

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        • AdonisCreed
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          #14
          I can't believe I'm saying this but Bob Arum is right. A loss doesn't end your career it just means that fighter had an off night or needs to train harder and tweak a few things that's all. Not every fighter is going to finish their career without a few loses Marquez, Pacquiao, Tyson, and Klitschko have taken loses it doesn't mean they are not great fighters.

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          • Bad_Guy
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            #15
            Originally posted by j.razor
            If this is the case bob then why wont you put your fighters against the best instead of all the in-house fighting??
            Because a loss for one of his fighters to a fighter outside of his stable IS a death sentence in his mind.

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            • A.K
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              #16
              Holly holm has lost every fight since Ronda and they still do ppvs around her, half of Nate Diaz record is losses and he's one of their biggest names it's a joke.

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              • TyrantT316
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                #17
                While Bob is right, it's not new...UFC didn't invent the "loss isn't a death sentence" mentality...if anything "Boxing history" has proven that...it's just more prominent in the past couple decades with more social media, guys like Mayweathey/Calzaghe/Michalczewski/Lopez etc having clout based on undefeated records and guys who suffered their first defeat and never "being the same"...I think the pressure put on these guys by boxing fans, commentators, writers, etc have created the stigma that "his aura" is gone after a loss...

                while the UFC doesn't have the history of Boxing, it has built a reputation based on having ONE promotor who gives their guys a chance to redeem themselves on a BIG card...

                The whole "one loss = career end" atmosphere is a by product of guys like Arum...a by product of Boxing not having one commission...if an undefeated fighter loses....a more centralized organization could say "ok, we'll get him right back to the top in one or two fights because the public loves him"....with the way boxing is now...a promotor says "I have to protect this kid from another loss for a while...so I don't lose TV/PPV deal money and he's one of only 2 cash cows I have in my stable at the moment...let's have him 'build his record' back up for 6 or 7 fights over the next 2 3 years, wasting his prime away, so he can fight for some WBO title against a lucky champion"

                I think it gives some fighters a level of false confidence and they find themselves not ready for that next level even after 5-7 tomato cans in a row...give them the motivation with redemption fights
                Last edited by TyrantT316; 08-04-2017, 01:31 PM.

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                • Majic
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                  #18
                  Arum needs to hop off the UFCs ****. Hes been referencing them alot lately. Are u a boxing promoter or a ****ing UFC spokesperson

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                  • SeekDaGreat
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                    #19
                    Nope but promoters, boxers, and the ****** fans treat it that way. And it starts at the top with protecting fighters and not letting them fight in tournament style fashion, always.

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                    • joe strong
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                      #20
                      Bob ain't lying. Just ask Don King & Andrew Golota. At one point King had Byrd (IBF), Brewster (WBO) & Ruiz (WBA) all world champions under his banner at the same time. Golota was his cash cow though as he could pack arenas full of Poles in NY & Chicago. King gave him 3 title shots in a 13 month period against all 3 of his champions. He was coming off a 3 year layoff after the Tyson fight & beat Terrance Lewis & Brian Nix. A loss is not a death sentence if you can draw a crowd. Guys like that will always get title shots. Malinaggi & Zab Judah were 2 other fighters who kept getting chances because of their popularity.

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