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  • #41
    Originally posted by killakali View Post
    cotto went back for a reason. It's not just the money. They are the master of mixing tough fight then easy fight to lengthen careers like cotto Pavlik Pacquiao etc. best match making and now with this new deal a lot of fighters are trying to get out of contracts to sign with them. Beterbiev just happens to be the first.
    No clue what Beterbiev's situation with GYM gots to do with TR. I didn't say TR is the only promoter doing f#cked up sh^t they are just the best at doing f#cked up sh^t from what I've seen.

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    • #42
      duboef triggered fighters are successful outside their top prank banner... look how arum bashed cotto when he left. A mikey-loma fight would be good but id slightly favor loma due to that slick feet movement huge has.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
        Ok.

        Are you speaking as a fan or do you honestly believe somebody could put a "one sided ass beating" on a fighter like Guillermo Rigondeaux??
        Comon now

        No tiny chin-less fighter is beating Lomachenko bro. No matter how good he is technically.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
          How many fights did he make a mill for with TR?

          And thats not even what Bob Jr is talking about doe. Bob Jr is trying to control the narrative & act like this is a want fights issue when it was a want money issue. Bob Jr is bringing up something that has nothing to do with why Mikey left TR. Mikey's contract was over & cuz of the bs in TR contracts TR was dis*****g it on some bs to avoid re-doing Mikey's contract. On principle Mikey said f#ck you.

          And now cuz TR cares about petty sh^t instead of bringing fans the best fights possible & cuz Arum is probably urinating on himself over the possibility Mikey could beat a TR guy Mikey isn't gonna get any of those fights.

          Regardless doe fair play to TR & Mikey. TR is looking out for TR. Mikey is looking out for Mikey. And I bet Loma, Crawford, Ramirez, Valdez, Conlan &/or Stevenson will be saying f#ck TR in another 2-5 years too cuz TR is nothing if not predictable with f#cking over their fighters.

          I am real hot on holding fighters 100% accountable for their decisions

          if..... TR is looking out for TR..... and Mikey is looking out for Mikey..... then Loma, is looking out for Loma..... because I don't hear him demanding Garcia

          I do not accept the "talk to my promoter" copout..... because there are many other fighters who take 100% responsibility for their decisions/careers, and no reason whatsoever why Lomachenko cannot do the same

          if Lomachenko chooses not to fight Mikey, that is on him..... and if Loma accepts DuBoef's "Mikey is not an A-fighter so we don't need him" rubbish..... then let the record show that Loma avoided that unnecessary fight/risk

          I don't really care tbh..... that fight would be great..... but Mikey is too big for Loma..... the thing is, they need to come and say that, not bullshht the media like Arum/Loeffler etc

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          • #45
            Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
            Comon now

            No tiny chin-less fighter is beating Lomachenko bro. No matter how good he is technically.
            So you're speaking as a fan then.

            The "chin-less" guy is undefeated. Even Donaire's power and skill couldn't change that. If the fight happens I'll ban bet you Rigondeaux wins. Seem good?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
              So you're speaking as a fan then.

              The "chin-less" guy is undefeated. Even Donaire's power and skill couldn't change that. If the fight happens I'll ban bet you Rigondeaux wins. Seem good?
              I won't take a ban bet (no one will enforce it anyway) but I'll take an avi bet .

              Loma is way bigger and way better than Donaire. You don't understand man lol

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              • #47
                Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                I won't take a ban bet (no one will enforce it anyway) but I'll take an avi bet .

                Loma is way bigger and way better than Donaire. You don't understand man lol
                You're saying you wouldn't honor a ban bet? Do you, homie.

                Cool, avatar bet it is. For life. Agreed?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  I am real hot on holding fighters 100% accountable for their decisions

                  if..... TR is looking out for TR..... and Mikey is looking out for Mikey..... then Loma, is looking out for Loma..... because I don't hear him demanding Garcia

                  I do not accept the "talk to my promoter" copout..... because there are many other fighters who take 100% responsibility for their decisions/careers, and no reason whatsoever why Lomachenko cannot do the same

                  if Lomachenko chooses not to fight Mikey, that is on him..... and if Loma accepts DuBoef's "Mikey is not an A-fighter so we don't need him" rubbish..... then let the record show that Loma avoided that unnecessary fight/risk

                  I don't really care tbh..... that fight would be great..... but Mikey is too big for Loma..... the thing is, they need to come and say that, not bullshht the media like Arum/Loeffler etc
                  That makes sense, but from what I can tell TR doesn't operate like that or TR fighters just give away their control.

                  I've often speculated that Arum gives out a list of potential opponents with purses that match up with TR's upside more than the fighters risk or caliber of opponent. So for example I'd bet Ramirez is getting more for fighting fellow TR fighter Hart then he'd get paid for fighting a perceived better non-TR fighter. Idk that for a fact, but thats my assumption cuz TR guys rarely fight risky fights out of house it seems.

                  And honestly for TR thats how you do business nothing else considered. Boxing fans are gonna watch boxing regardless if its the best fight you can make or the 11th best fight you can make.

                  And this is why nothing is every gonna work out great for boxing long term til there is some real power structure in boxing thats looking out for boxing. Everyone is looking out for their own best interest & fighters got lil reason to go against the grain as long as the dollars make sense.

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                  • #49
                    Give Mikey a break. It's unseemly and maybe even illegal to beat up a midget.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
                      You're saying you wouldn't honor a ban bet? Do you, homie.

                      Cool, avatar bet it is. For life. Agreed?
                      For life

                      You buggin right now

                      I'd do maybe a month with a new avi and new user title

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