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  • Steven Mccowan
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    #101
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    The Alvarez fight is only happening because Alvarez wanted it to happen; to act as if Golovkin somehow earned the fight is a bit much, lol.

    Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, and others have fought less, but they've been able to properly price their fights for big shows, and actually draw money.

    Golovkin has "sold out" venues at dramatically reduced ticket prices, or in the UK (where most of the money was actually drawn by Londoners paying to back the UK fighter).
    The fight is happening because ggg kept fighting and his name started being thrown around towards canelo and it kept building until canelo had to talk about it and finally got fed up and said what he said after fight last yr and then there was even more pressure so he tool thr fight. It isnt that hard to understand man. **** thurman has been fighting big fights once a yr and ppl in his own state, own town even dont know who he is. Its because of inactivity. Ggg is from fooking bo**** home lol. And he has a worldwide name in the sporting world because of fooking activity lmfao. Its very easy to understand, it is boxing 101 and ive tried explaining this to you since my first post about being an active, known fighter. I mean i comprehend what you are saying but its just not compatable to building a real brand. Fine garcia and thurman fight once a yr against a top guy, but nobody gives a **** but us and when the fights over its usually pretty forgettable. GOTTA be ACTIVE

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      #102
      Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
      The fight is happening because ggg kept fighting and his name started being thrown around towards canelo and it kept building until canelo had to talk about it and finally got fed up and said what he said after fight last yr and then there was even more pressure so he tool thr fight. It isnt that hard to understand man. **** thurman has been fighting big fights once a yr and ppl in his own state, own town even dont know who he is. Its because of inactivity. Ggg is from fooking bo**** home lol. And he has a worldwide name in the sporting world because of fooking activity lmfao. Its very easy to understand, it is boxing 101 and ive tried explaining this to you since my first post about being an active, known fighter. I mean i comprehend what you are saying but its just not compatable to building a real brand. Fine garcia and thurman fight once a yr against a top guy, but nobody gives a **** but us and when the fights over its usually pretty forgettable. GOTTA be ACTIVE

      Golovkin cashed out

      after that less-than-stellar performance against Jacobs, they decided to take the Canelo-money NOW

      it was either that..... or fight Saunders/Jacobs/Charlo, and risk losing even more shine

      they had to take that money now

      tick tock tick tock tick tock

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        #103
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        Golovkin cashed out

        after that less-than-stellar performance against Jacobs, they decided to take the Canelo-money NOW

        it was either that..... or fight Saunders/Jacobs/Charlo, and risk losing even more shine

        they had to take that money now

        tick tock tick tock tick tock
        We shall see. Could be the case but i wouldnt bet on it

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          #104
          Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
          We shall see. Could be the case but i wouldnt bet on it

          it is obvious to K2 that they cannot keep milking Gennady against lower-level opponents..... the public are LITERALLY not buying it

          Golovkin's stock will fall, as Jacobs/Canelo/Charlo stock rises

          Golovkin would have to fight those guys, or risk losing shine like Brook/Thurman/etc when they started milking lower-level opponents..... Spence went straight to the top of the class because he is willing to fight everyone

          Golovkin is at the point where he needs to shht or get off the pot

          another example..... 18 months ago, Golovkin was the man at 160, no question..... but NOW, I need to see him beat Charlo, I am unsure if he could beat Jacobs in a rematch, and I think that he will lose to Canelo in September..... also, I would need to see how Saunders looks with Monroe, but I do not think that Golovkin would have an easy job with him either

          it was either, take that Canelo money now..... or risk exposing Golovkin to guys who do not have a favorable style

          they made the right choice, it was now or never really

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            #105
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            it is obvious to K2 that they cannot keep milking Gennady against lower-level opponents..... the public are LITERALLY not buying it

            Golovkin's stock will fall, as Jacobs/Canelo/Charlo stock rises

            Golovkin would have to fight those guys, or risk losing shine like Brook/Thurman/etc when they started milking lower-level opponents..... Spence went straight to the top of the class because he is willing to fight everyone

            Golovkin is at the point where he needs to shht or get off the pot

            another example..... 18 months ago, Golovkin was the man at 160, no question..... but NOW, I need to see him beat Charlo, I am unsure if he could beat Jacobs in a rematch, and I think that he will lose to Canelo in September..... also, I would need to see how Saunders looks with Monroe, but I do not think that Golovkin would have an easy job with him either

            it was either, take that Canelo money now..... or risk exposing Golovkin to guys who do not have a favorable style

            they made the right choice, it was now or never really
            I disagree, i think he beats jacobs again and maybe even wider. I would dig seeing him against charlo but i wouldnt go thinking charlo is a superman because he just beat a one legged man at best in his coming out party last weekend. And ive alwats thought canelo will be a hard fight but again maybe notbecause they gonna be in front of each other like a mf'r and thats gonna be interesting and fun to watch. And saunders.... So hey your opinion seems like you thought it out a bit. I aint knockin it. I just disagree. Peace

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              #106
              Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
              I disagree, i think he beats jacobs again and maybe even wider. I would dig seeing him against charlo but i wouldnt go thinking charlo is a superman because he just beat a one legged man at best in his coming out party last weekend. And ive alwats thought canelo will be a hard fight but again maybe notbecause they gonna be in front of each other like a mf'r and thats gonna be interesting and fun to watch. And saunders.... So hey your opinion seems like you thought it out a bit. I aint knockin it. I just disagree. Peace

              who we think would win, is not the point.....

              the point is..... taking that Canelo-money NOW, is far wiser than being forced to take fights against opponents with unfavorable styles for little reward

              these decisions are all about risk/reward

              well, the reward for Canelo has not improved, it will only get smaller if Golovkin's stock drops...... and the risk is much more significant, as Golovkin did get exposed a little against Danny Jacobs

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                #107
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                who we think would win, is not the point.....

                the point is..... taking that Canelo-money NOW, is far wiser than being forced to take fights against opponents with unfavorable styles for little reward

                these decisions are all about risk/reward

                well, the reward for Canelo has not improved, it will only get smaller if Golovkin's stock drops...... and the risk is much more significant, as Golovkin did get exposed a little against Danny Jacobs
                who the favorites to win are what makes it risk and reward guy. How can someone say oh he is cashing out, and then he goes and ko the guy haha. And you may think he got exposed a little vs jacobs but i happen to be a very big fan of jacobs and his fights and i always thought it was probable that ggg was gonna win close decision and he did. Jacobs is the #2 mw in the world. He beats charlo, canelo, etc. So i guess we have a disagreement on what jacobs is as a fighter and what constitutes exposed

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Steven Mccowan
                  who the favorites to win are what makes it risk and reward guy. How can someone say oh he is cashing out, and then he goes and ko the guy haha. And you may think he got exposed a little vs jacobs but i happen to be a very big fan of jacobs and his fights and i always thought it was probable that ggg was gonna win close decision and he did. Jacobs is the #2 mw in the world. He beats charlo, canelo, etc. So i guess we have a disagreement on what jacobs is as a fighter and what constitutes exposed







                  now..... EVERYONE thinks that Jacobs is elite

                  fastest transformation ever, zero to hero in one fight








                  the sharks were circling around Golovkin, they smelt old meat

                  so K2 took that money, while their carcass was still intact

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    now..... EVERYONE thinks that Jacobs is elite

                    fastest transformation ever, zero to hero in one fight








                    the sharks were circling around Golovkin, they smelt old meat

                    so K2 took that money, while their carcass was still intact
                    again i am a boxing fan. I dont look for fighters to put down etc. And i enjoy watching any of them i find entertaining lol.

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