Did Team Heiland Get Fined? What Really Went Down?

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  • BostonGuy
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    #11
    In any other sport (football, basketball, hockey, etc.) you're expected to play through injuries - why should it be different in boxing? All too often, we have fighters who pull out of fights due to the slightest injury - depriving fans of the fight. Given that fighters take two fights a year, I don't see the problem letting the guy fight with an injury.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BostonGuy
      In any other sport (football, basketball, hockey, etc.) you're expected to play through injuries - why should it be different in boxing? All too often, we have fighters who pull out of fights due to the slightest injury - depriving fans of the fight. Given that fighters take two fights a year, I don't see the problem letting the guy fight with an injury.
      Because nobody is punching you in those other sports. You can be killed in a boxing ring and suffer life altering consequences. You play sports like the ones you named you DON'T play boxing. It's criminal if the commission, promoters, ect knew about the injury and let him fight anyway and illegal which is why they are all lying and covering their azz's up telling the public he was injured in the fight not before. Letting a man enter a boxing ring when he can barely walk is a serious problem.

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        #13
        Originally posted by bigdunny1
        Because nobody is punching you in those other sports. You can be killed in a boxing ring and suffer life altering consequences. You play sports like the ones you named you DON'T play boxing. It's criminal if the commission, promoters, ect knew about the injury and let him fight anyway and illegal which is why they are all lying and covering their azz's up telling the public he was injured in the fight not before. Letting a man enter a boxing ring when he can barely walk is a serious problem.
        It wasn't a head injury like a concussion, he was "limping." David Haye fought with a broken toe against Klitscho, should he have pulled out for that? Please

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          #14
          Originally posted by BostonGuy
          In any other sport (football, basketball, hockey, etc.) you're expected to play through injuries - why should it be different in boxing? All too often, we have fighters who pull out of fights due to the slightest injury - depriving fans of the fight. Given that fighters take two fights a year, I don't see the problem letting the guy fight with an injury.
          boxers are notorious for fighting with injuries and only pulling out due to severe injuries which heiland had.

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            #15
            Originally posted by kilojay505
            Anyone with eyes could tell he was injured everyone was in on it for the athletic commission to the wbc to Heiland's camp. Very bad look for the sport and disappointing
            Exactly I don't buy it just being the fighter hiding it. Moments after the fight fans can find the injury in the weigh in video and create a fire storm on social media which FORCED the commission and others to begin lying and putting out statements to cover their azz. Before that Showtime was acting like nothing to see but were FORCED to address this at the end of the Broner/Garcia fight. Bernstein was the only one to finally speak the truth and say listen I don't know how this guy was ranked number 1 but he just flat out isn't a top 10 middleweight and he was clearly injured before the fight. It was a bad look for showtime but I like to hope they had nothing to do with this. Maybe it's all the WBC who ranked this bum in the first place and the commission for being complicit in hiding it or worse negligent for not catching it. The dude was limping his way to the weigh in and tried to wear a wrap over the bum knee into the ring it's inexcusable for those things alone not to raise red flags and have someone shut this down.

            And remember this fight has major implications for the Charlo because this farce with the WBC rankings were going to secure him a mandatory spot if he won. So it's in Charlo, WBC, the promoters and even Showtime best interest if the fight goes on and doesn't get canceled.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BostonGuy
              It wasn't a head injury like a concussion, he was "limping." David Haye fought with a broken toe against Klitscho, should he have pulled out for that? Please
              He could of suffered major concussion and life threatening injuries because if you have only 1 leg and can barely stand how can you defend yourself against a man who is trying to kill you in the ring? You are beyond ****** this wasn't a minor injury the dude was unable to walk up stairs or put any pressure on his leg to hold himself up. The final "Knockdown" before the fight was stopped he was barely hit and just lost all balance as his leg couldn't hold himself up. That's why you have protocol and physicals and laws in place to prevent a 1 legged man from fighting. And comparing other injures where you can hide it and shoot it up for pain, this was a obvious major injury and nothing you can shoot up in your knee when it's clearly structurally compromised.

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                #17
                I don't see how he could have passed the physical prior to the fight. Even before the weigh in, you can see in this training clip that he cannot use his left leg properly. Reports in Argentina are saying that he has torn ligaments in his knee.


                Last edited by Demonio1023; 07-31-2017, 12:40 PM.

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                  #18
                  What is the protocol on the "physical" checks? Do they have the fighter do certain things or does the doctor move joints around for su****ion or is it just Q&A from Doc to the boxer's word?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Demonio1023
                    I don't see how he could have passed the physical prior to the fight. Even before the weigh in, you can see in this training clip that he cannot use his left leg properly. Reports in Argentina are saying that he has torn ligaments in his knee.


                    So he was doing a media workout in a store with tile or varnished wood? Those types of gym shoes with dust on the bottom one can so easily slip.... he doesn't look that bad there, perhaps the sole for those types of sneaks can provide some comfort cushion... that injury may have happened right there in the store!!! It's outside of Barclay's!!! Perhaps mass swolen and pain had built up later. Could've been his Achilles or knee. Hard to tell. Haye was able to stiffen out his leg and put pressure as he also didn't attempt to bend his knee or Achilles. Either way DiBella needs to make sure that no fighters from Showtime are doing a media workout on goddamn tile and only restricted reservation in a boxing gym.

                    So does this mean if he was given Toradol he and Manny would've performed better? Manny didn't seem to be in any pain doe.. Heiland looked worse than Martinez and Yuri Foreman. They were allowed knee braces. I don't get it

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                    • Demonio1023
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                      #20
                      He doesn't look that bad there, but you can tell that his knee is already injured. So the claims that he hurt himself during the fight are all lies.

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