Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Dares Rigondeaux To Do 'Winner Takes All' Bout

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #61
    Originally posted by Banderivets
    OK I misinterpreted your post.

    I'm still not clear on the parallel you a drawing with Floyd and Ward. If I follow you are saying that Floyd and Ward didn't get credit for beating someone smaller and Loma is trying to do the same?
    No problem. It's NSB and I do engage in heated racial debates almost daily so I understood why you thought that.

    Yes, that is my agenda. I am fine with posters that criticize Floyd for "bringing JMM up 2 weight classes"and Ward for calling out GGG who was in a lower weight class. I just want to see the same criticisms here given Loma is the top p4p boxer in their opinion.

    being honest, I don't think they were criticizing Floyd and Ward solely because they were the top fighters, but if posters say that is the reason I take their word for it and then as I stated before apply their logic.

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #62
      Originally posted by methodcal
      I love Loma but realistically speaking...... Is that pricing yourself out??
      I meant this is Loma's way of saying "No, thanks." I like Loma too but boxers have bills and a whole team to pay. Winner takes all is an excuse, another way of turning the fight down.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #63
        Originally posted by Banderivets
        Common man hes calling out everyone...Mikey a small man? Or Crawford lol?


        Anyway this guy will have as much haters as Floyd soon. Well not that much but I just see people pick on him no mater what he does.

        Rigo been calling him out for a while so now he wants to make it happen but its a bad look for him?
        Did he call out Crawford? Now, that's the fight I wanna see! Any sources??

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        • Bad_Guy
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          #64
          Rigo been sitting on his ass fighting one bum a year since 2014 and is coming off a fight where he almost took a L by DQ. With that said, Rigo is probably Loma's biggest test yet if the fight happens (assuming Rigo comes to fight, not to survive). Nevertheless, 37+ Rigo (on fight night) would likely be stopped late if he engages Loma throughout the fight. I don't see anyone beating Loma without a big size advantage (e.g., a welterweight or above).

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          • darius45
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            #65
            Originally posted by harwri008
            I don't understand they're making this offer when they know Rigondeaux's team wouldn't accept it. Are they deliberate trying to stall the fight?
            It's so they (Loma's team) can give the appearance that they're trying to negotiate. They can say, "Hey, look, we tried to make the fight but Rigo was stubborn" (i.e. he wouldn't take a small guarantee with a big bonus if he wins (even though a million things could go wrong and then he's stuck with his small guarantee)

            When was the last time, if ever, such a high level fight was negotiated like this ( a bonus if you win)...

            It's obvious Arum isn't serious at all or is trying to make a genuine offer.

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            • kej718
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              #66
              The only way it should be winner take all is if there is a KO. We just saw one of the biggest names in boxing get robbed. Why take a risk like that fighting under the same promotion.

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              • wlad1111
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                #67
                This offer is not even legit or official it's just some random **** that came to Lomas mind as Ellie Seckback was riding lomas nuts. Arum will never listen to any of Loma created super deals and neither team would even take such a risk. There is a reason winner takes all deals almost never happe. There is too much money involved and too much incentive for corruption which we have enough of in boxing as is.

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                • filup79
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                  #68
                  If they plan on fighting Mikey like they say they will, hopefully Mikey turns the tables on them and tells Klimas and Loma the same thing they are telling Rigo. I wonder if they will sign the contract on those terms.

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                  • HarvardBlue
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by darius45
                    It's so they (Loma's team) can give the appearance that they're trying to negotiate. They can say, "Hey, look, we tried to make the fight but Rigo was stubborn" (i.e. he wouldn't take a small guarantee with a big bonus if he wins (even though a million things could go wrong and then he's stuck with his small guarantee)

                    When was the last time, if ever, such a high level fight was negotiated like this ( a bonus if you win)...

                    It's obvious Arum isn't serious at all or is trying to make a genuine offer.
                    It sounds just like the negotiations for the Walters fight.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      come on man. He seems very eager to fight Rigo who is 2 weight classes below him. every other time this happens its seen as a bad look for the boxer doing it.
                      It can't be different here.
                      All Loma is doing with Rigo is reacting to tweets put out by Rigo's team calling him out, accusing him of ducking etc, etc.

                      It's interesting that many of the same people here accusing Loma of "picking on a smaller man" supported Ward when he called out the smaller Golovkin and accused GGG of ducking when he didn't immediately put his MW title plans on ice and move UP to to fight Ward.

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