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  • #61
    Originally posted by Kigali View Post
    So did Ross Purrity and that Golfer
    Why are you saying dumb ****? Wtf does ross purity have to do with anything i said? Wilder has **** defense and seriously lacks any sort of defense or advanced boxing ability. AJ actually has those things, he for the most part did a good job of negating wlads jab, wilder was confused as **** and seriously having major issues against slow ass washington.

    He has serious flaws, we all know he has power and it ends up winning him the fight everytime, but eventually thats not going to work, he cant just keep going into fights thinking another hail mary shot will give him the victory every time. Dudes like AJ and ortiz will just slip the right hand, back him up and counter him instantly. He could get knocked out quick, he hasnt shown any significant improvement over the last 2 years his flaws will come back glaring and bite him in the ass sooner or later. If they fight now, AJ knocks him out in less than 5. Wlad could probably beat him too unless the AJ fight took alot out of him, ortiz also has a BIG chance of outboxing him and knocking him out. Wilder got outboxed by gerald for FFS.

    Wilder really seems to never have a gameplan, he just goes in, wings it and tries to land a big shot over the course of 12.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Kigali View Post
      Not surprised to see you pulling against the American fighter.

      Joshua is too slow and stiff.

      The lumbering dope dealer will get brutally Baptized and taken out on a XXL stretcher.
      We can all agree both Wilder and AJ are overhyped, but at least AJ has some modicum of skills. I mean AJ at least is still in his twenties so he could improve with more experience, but Wilder is getting old.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by The Time View Post
        I think he weighed 243 against Breazeale. Against Whyte I could have sworn he gassed a little bit, not like the Klitschko fight but gassed a little I thought. I may have to rewatch that fight. But yeah around that weight he should be, no more than 245. Anywhere from 240 to 245 would be good for AJ.

        Still always a good idea to improve stamina regardless of momentary issues.

        Always better to be safe than sorry, nah mean. Lol


        Well played.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by iamboxing View Post
          We can all agree both Wilder and AJ are overhyped, but at least AJ has some modicum of skills. I mean AJ at least is still in his twenties so he could improve with more experience, but Wilder is getting old.
          AJ moves like an old fighter....he was almost KO'd by one

          AJ is SLOW....you can't teach speed

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          • #65
            Originally posted by RussTBE View Post
            Why are you saying dumb ****? Wtf does ross purity have to do with anything i said? Wilder has **** defense and seriously lacks any sort of defense or advanced boxing ability. AJ actually has those things, he for the most part did a good job of negating wlads jab, wilder was confused as **** and seriously having major issues against slow ass washington.

            He has serious flaws, we all know he has power and it ends up winning him the fight everytime, but eventually thats not going to work, he cant just keep going into fights thinking another hail mary shot will give him the victory every time. Dudes like AJ and ortiz will just slip the right hand, back him up and counter him instantly. He could get knocked out quick, he hasnt shown any significant improvement over the last 2 years his flaws will come back glaring and bite him in the ass sooner or later. If they fight now, AJ knocks him out in less than 5. Wlad could probably beat him too unless the AJ fight took alot out of him, ortiz also has a BIG chance of outboxing him and knocking him out. Wilder got outboxed by gerald for FFS.

            Wilder really seems to never have a gameplan, he just goes in, wings it and tries to land a big shot over the course of 12.
            Ross Purrity and that fat Golfer have everything to do with this.

            They stopped Vlad in his PRIME not when he was old...coming off a loss...and a long layoff.

            In other words....one doesn't have to be special to whip Vlad.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Kigali View Post
              Ross Purrity and that fat Golfer have everything to do with this.

              They stopped Vlad in his PRIME not when he was old...coming off a loss...and a long layoff.

              In other words....one doesn't have to be special to whip Vlad.
              Wlad went on to dominate the division for over a decade after that and switched his style up. Was a much better fighter, stop discrediting wlad to discredit AJ's win over him. Because AJ in one fight has a better resume than wilder. And to be honest, the wlad that fought AJ would probably knock wilder out lol.

              I dont think he could deal with wlad.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                Not in boxing.

                If size mattered Primo Carnera would be the greatest fighter EVER.
                Think you mean Nikolai Valuev.

                No saying it the be all and end all, but you are a fool if you think it doesn't matter.

                There is a reason for weight classes you know.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by RussTBE View Post
                  Wlad went on to dominate the division for over a decade after that and switched his style up. Was a much better fighter, stop discrediting wlad to discredit AJ's win over him. Because AJ in one fight has a better resume than wilder. And to be honest, the wlad that fought AJ would probably knock wilder out lol.

                  I dont think he could deal with wlad.
                  He dominated the weakest era EVER.

                  Write down the list of fighters he dominated for a good laugh.

                  Joe Louis had a bum of the month TOUR

                  Vlad had a bum of the month CAREER

                  ...and still managed to get KTFO

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    Think you mean Nikolai Valuev.
                    That guy was a disgrace to the sport. Got to 46-0 on his size alone.

                    Monte Barrett tried to fight him toe-to-toe and got ragdolled.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                      He dominated the weakest era EVER.

                      Write down the list of fighters he dominated for a good laugh.

                      Joe Louis had a bum of the month TOUR

                      Vlad had a bum of the month CAREER

                      ...and still managed to get KTFO
                      Id you knock wlads competition. Then you should do the same to wilder, because his competition is even worse. You have to call it both ways, atleast wlad was beating #1 contenders and top 10 guys consistently. I think wilder hasnt even faced a top 10 guy since his title win over the fat bum stiverne who fought for vitalis vacated belt.

                      Gotta call it both ways .

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