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  • #71
    that's exactly what tito said after his fight with Oscar de la hoya.

    "people paid to see a fight, not Oscar running around the ring."

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      • #73
        Originally posted by el*** View Post
        DLH is probably the biggest Mayweather hater on the planet. Worse than freddy roach, even worse than Bob Arum.

        Look at all the reasons DLH is salty:

        - Floyd-Conor will double the PPVs of GGG-Canelo
        - Floyd is 40 years old, in fighting shape, set to make another $100-200 million in a month
        - DLH Is a 44 year old overweight coke head
        - DLH retired at 35 after a cherry pick gone wrong with someone 3 divisions lower than him
        - Floyd at 40 would be a favorite over every single fighter 147-154 on the planet. A betting favorite on even every fighter at 160.
        - Floyd is worth more and made more than DLH, broke nearly every record DLH has ever set.
        To be fair, Oscar fought the better opposition.

        Trinidad
        Whitaker
        Hopkins
        Quartey
        Vargas
        Mosley x2 (prime)
        Sturm
        Carr
        Camacho
        Chavez
        Gonzalez
        Hernandez
        Paez
        Molina
        Leija

        And this isn't even everyone.

        Ask yourself, does Floyd go through DLH resume undefeated? I doubt it.

        DLH aged faster than Floyd because he was more active and fought the better competition in their prime.
        Last edited by Chollo Vista; 07-20-2017, 02:36 PM.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by MexicanStyle#1 View Post
          I agree with DeLahoya, Mayweather era ruined boxing, he brought back the poison in boxing... he never once fought a legitimate champion in his prime... and always requested all his demands to be met...he started this nasty era where the champion never takes on a serious contender... always taking fights you know you're going to win... the A side fighter vs the B side fighter BS... let's be honest... about 90% of the people watched his fights hoping he would get KO'd... I was one of them... however as a boxer myself... I have serious respect for his defensive skill... aside from that... I hope he retires for good and hope his name is never mentioned in the bracket of the likes of Ali, Robinson, Leonard, Duran, Tyson, Chavez, Barrera, Marquez, Napoles, Gomez, Holyfield, Nelson, Foreman, Hagler, Hearns... etc...
          Durán!!!!!!
          All of those guys fought the devil if they had to, and would have given the Devil a sword to defend himself.
          Those were men!!!!!

          Never write the name of the Gay one in the same sentence!

          Great great post!

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
            To be fair, Oscar fought the better opposition.

            Trinidad
            Whitaker
            Hopkins
            Quartey
            Vargas
            Mosley x2 (prime)
            Sturm
            Carr
            Camacho
            Chavez
            Gonzalez
            Hernandez
            Paez
            Molina
            Leija

            And this isn't even everyone.

            Ask yourself, does Floyd go through DLH resume undefeated? I doubt it.

            DLH aged faster than Floyd because he was more active and fought the better competition in their prime.
            Oscar aged faster because he's an alcoholic with a coke addiction. Also there's the fact Floyd is the much more skilled fighter. Oscar was never the best at any period of his career.

            And would Floyd have gone through Oscars resume unbeaten? Probably not, but he would have done a hell of a lot better than Oscar did. De La Fishnets lost every time he stepped and fought someone better than him

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            • #76
              Originally posted by cammoking123 View Post
              Oscar aged faster because he's an alcoholic with a coke addiction. Also there's the fact Floyd is the much more skilled fighter. Oscar was never the best at any period of his career.

              And would Floyd have gone through Oscars resume unbeaten? Probably not, but he would have done a hell of a lot better than Oscar did. De La Fishnets lost every time he stepped and fought someone better than him

              DLH won many major fights in his career. He was P4P for at least 10 years or so.

              You have to remember that Floyd couldn't get the top guys to fight him when he was high risk low reward. There are many many fights that Mayweather missed. DLH not so much the case. I seriously can't think of anyone DLH ducked other than Cotto when he was already well over the hill.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                Right, but not to see his style of fighting which is Oscar's point. It was more because they hated him and wanted to see him get ko'd. Personally I'm a Mayweather fan I appreciate the work ethic he has had for such a long time and also I appreciate the sweet science, hit and not be hit which he was the best at in his era... not hating on Floyd. Just pointing out the facts about oscars statement and pairing it up with his ppv numbers. 2/3 or more of his ppv sales came from his haters
                But part of the reason they hated him was his style, so I think it's safe to say that they paid to watch him was his style

                Originally posted by el*** View Post
                DLH is probably the biggest Mayweather hater on the planet. Worse than freddy roach, even worse than Bob Arum.

                Look at all the reasons DLH is salty:

                - Floyd-Conor will double the PPVs of GGG-Canelo
                - Floyd is 40 years old, in fighting shape, set to make another $100-200 million in a month
                - DLH Is a 44 year old overweight coke head
                - DLH retired at 35 after a cherry pick gone wrong with someone 3 divisions lower than him
                - Floyd at 40 would be a favorite over every single fighter 147-154 on the planet. A betting favorite on even every fighter at 160.
                - Floyd is worth more and made more than DLH, broke nearly every record DLH has ever set.
                All facts

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                  To be fair, Oscar fought the better opposition.

                  Trinidad
                  Whitaker
                  Hopkins
                  Quartey
                  Vargas
                  Mosley x2 (prime)
                  Sturm
                  Carr
                  Camacho
                  Chavez
                  Gonzalez
                  Hernandez
                  Paez
                  Molina
                  Leija

                  And this isn't even everyone.

                  Ask yourself, does Floyd go through DLH resume undefeated? I doubt it.

                  DLH aged faster than Floyd because he was more active and fought the better competition in their prime.
                  Incredible resume but I'm not sure it's better than

                  Corales
                  Canelo
                  Mosley
                  Cotto
                  Pacquaio
                  Oscar
                  Maidaina
                  Marquez
                  Hatton
                  Judah
                  Gatti
                  Castillo
                  Manfredy
                  Hernandez

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                    DLH won many major fights in his career. He was P4P for at least 10 years or so.

                    You have to remember that Floyd couldn't get the top guys to fight him when he was high risk low reward. There are many many fights that Mayweather missed. DLH not so much the case. I seriously can't think of anyone DLH ducked other than Cotto when he was already well over the hill.
                    Oscar lost most of his legacy defining fights. That's what he's known for, losing. Unlike Floyd he was never the best in the world any point. And I can think of a few guys Oscar ducked:

                    Winky Wright
                    Frankie Randall
                    Jose Luis Lopez
                    Azumah Nelson

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by cammoking123 View Post
                      Oscar lost most of his legacy defining fights. That's what he's known for, losing. Unlike Floyd he was never the best in the world any point.
                      This is farthest from the truth. How old are you because you sound like you haven't been covering the sport that long. Oscar's first big fight was probably against Ruelas. Chavez was a big fight. Gonzales was a big fight. Quartet was a big fight. Whitaker was a big fight. Vargas was a big fight.

                      The Mosley fight was a big fight even though Oscar was robbed in the rematch.

                      That's just for starters.

                      Are you new to the sport or maybe you weren't around then.

                      Oscar was never considered the best in the world? Are you serious?

                      Originally posted by cammoking123 View Post
                      And I can think of a few guys Oscar ducked:

                      Winky Wright
                      Frankie Randall
                      Jose Luis Lopez
                      Azumah Nelson
                      Azumah was at the tail end of his career when Oscar started. How did he duck Nelson?

                      The other 2 guys you're talking about is absurd.

                      Wright priced himself out like he's always done. And if you're going to mention Wright, you might as well mention him for Floyd as well because they were supposed to fight but didn't
                      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 07-20-2017, 03:33 PM.

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