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  • TheCell8
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    #81
    Maybe they do, but the PPV numbers, gate numbers, say otherwise.

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    • Chollo Vista
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      #82
      Originally posted by nubianpiye
      Incredible resume but I'm not sure it's better than

      Corales
      Canelo
      Mosley
      Cotto
      Pacquaio
      Oscar
      Maidaina
      Marquez
      Hatton
      Judah
      Gatti
      Castillo
      Manfredy
      Hernandez
      When it comes to Hernandez, Gatti and Pac, Oscar fought all 3 before Floyd. Was Pac still prime when he fought DLH? Maybe.

      Outside of Corrales, Canelo, Hatton and Marquez, you have to ask yourself not "who", but "when". The Manfreddy win was cool for Floyd.

      Oscar has many Manfreddy esqu wins though

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      • Chollo Vista
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        #83
        Originally posted by cammoking123
        Oscar lost most of his legacy defining fights. That's what he's known for, losing. Unlike Floyd he was never the best in the world any point
        Let's look at Oscar's career from prime to retirement:

        1995 P4P #4, #1 Lightweight
        1996 - P4P #2 behind RJJ, #1 JWW
        1997 - P4P #1 in front of RJJ, #1 WW
        1998 - P4P #1 in front of RJJ, #1 WW
        1999 - P4P #4, #2 WW - Controversial loss to Trinidad
        2000 - P4P #4, #2 WW
        2001 - P4P #7, #1 JMW
        2002 - P4P #5, #1 JMW (Champ)
        2003 - P4P #4, #1 JMW
        2004 - #2 MW
        2006 - #6 JMW
        2007 - #3 JMW (ironically the year he lost to FMJ). DLH was clearly past his prime
        2008 - retired


        Notice how Floyd fought Oscar at the tail end of his career?

        Oscar was never the best in the world? What are you talking about? How old are you again?

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          #84
          As a fighter, Oscar was a true warrior. He was a great boxer with a fan friendly style and an ATG left hand. Oscar never ducked anybody and like most great fighters, he stayed too long.
          Oscar loved to fight and he gave the fans some memorable fights. In his prime at 147, Floyd probably ducks him. lol

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            #85
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista
            Let's look at Oscar's career from prime to retirement:

            1995 P4P #4, #1 Lightweight
            1996 - P4P #2 behind RJJ, #1 JWW
            1997 - P4P #1 in front of RJJ, #1 WW
            1998 - P4P #1 in front of RJJ, #1 WW
            1999 - P4P #4, #2 WW - Controversial loss to Trinidad
            2000 - P4P #4, #2 WW
            2001 - P4P #7, #1 JMW
            2002 - P4P #5, #1 JMW (Champ)
            2003 - P4P #4, #1 JMW
            2004 - #2 MW
            2006 - #6 JMW
            2007 - #3 JMW (ironically the year he lost to FMJ). DLH was clearly past his prime
            2008 - retired


            Notice how Floyd fought Oscar at the tail end of his career?

            Oscar was never the best in the world? What are you talking about? How old are you again?
            It is well documented how he chased Oscar for years man..he even left Top Rank cause they would not guarantee him the fight..you cant say he waited for Oscar to get old

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            • ironmt
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              #86
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista
              Let's look at Oscar's career from prime to retirement:

              1995 P4P #4, #1 Lightweight
              1996 - P4P #2 behind RJJ, #1 JWW
              1997 - P4P #1 in front of RJJ, #1 WW
              1998 - P4P #1 in front of RJJ, #1 WW
              1999 - P4P #4, #2 WW - Controversial loss to Trinidad
              2000 - P4P #4, #2 WW
              2001 - P4P #7, #1 JMW
              2002 - P4P #5, #1 JMW (Champ)
              2003 - P4P #4, #1 JMW
              2004 - #2 MW
              2006 - #6 JMW
              2007 - #3 JMW (ironically the year he lost to FMJ). DLH was clearly past his prime
              2008 - retired


              Notice how Floyd fought Oscar at the tail end of his career?

              Oscar was never the best in the world? What are you talking about? How old are you again?
              I was never a huge De La Hoya fan when he was fighting but his resume and accomplishments are Incredible. We discuss Pacquiao and Mayweather here daily but Oscar's resume buries both IMO, If for no other reason than the fact that he fought a prime Mosley and Trinidad.

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              • pasawayako
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                #87
                It's okay to run all night and still beat your opponent in landing punches but the problem with floyd is that he will run and hug all night and his opponent are landing more, landing harder and cleaner punches but floyd still win.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ruedboy
                  As a fighter, Oscar was a true warrior. He was a great boxer with a fan friendly style and an ATG left hand. Oscar never ducked anybody and like most great fighters, he stayed too long.
                  Oscar loved to fight and he gave the fans some memorable fights. In his prime at 147, Floyd probably ducks him. lol
                  Why do yall say this? Floyd literally moved up chasing Oscar and Mosley..even left Top Rank just to get the fight

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                  • pasawayako
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by j.razor
                    Not true. Try watching his fights.
                    I always watch floyd fight. Floyd will not run if his opponents is small or no hoper but when he fight a good opponent all he do is run and pot shot.

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                    • ruedboy
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS
                      Was this part of the "blueprint"
                      People pay their hard earned money for what they want to see. And correct me if im wrong, but doesnt floyd hold 4 out 5 of the top PPV's spots.
                      Did Jermaine Taylor fight that way
                      side note: I was in elpaso, tx less than a mile away from Juarez, and they believed YOU RAN to the finish line like an actual race vs Trinidad, but were happy you won (which more important in a sporting contest) WINNING Jermaine Taylor stood there and took hellacious shots to the dome, for the "fans", now look at him, plus if that was true, wouldnt one of those boxers have took the PPV mantle? Fact: He beat you at your preferred weight (Floyd moved up to your weight class, your preferred rules, and Your prefered Gloves, and took Cinco De Mayo :smileysex
                      Sorry, you're wrong. FM has the top 3 highest grossing boxing PPV's. Mike Tyson has 4 and 5.

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