Comments Thread For: Stiverne Hires Prince and Dubin - Will NOT Allow Wilder-Ortiz

[BoxerDood]

Can't blame Stiverne for wanting to exercise what will probably be his final opportunity at a world title, since it was handed to him. If he can somehow win, it sets him up for a huge payday vs Joshua, whereas taking a step aside fee then probably a second loss to Wilder (and I'd imagine he gets r*ped in the purse bid just for being difficult) leaves him with much less.

All of this falls on the WBC. I understand the Povetkin-Stiverne cancellation causing a problem, but at the same time it was their idea to put him back in the rankings after the first failed test. And all of this would have been solved if they had Stiverne and Ortiz fight in a final eliminator and let Stiverne deal with Povetkin in court for the inconvenience.

[original zero]

the WBC is mostly to blame for this for making Stiverne the mandatory. How the **** is Stiverne #1 mandatory over #3 Ortiz?

1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) SILVER
2 .- Mike Perez (Cuba/Ireland)
3 .- Tyson Fury (GB) EBU/BBBC
4 .- Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine)
5 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)

Those are the rankings after Stiverne lost his mandatory defense against Wilder.

Povetkin & Perez fought in an eliminator and Povetkin won, becoming the mandatory.

Fury chose to become WBO mandatory and Glazkov chose to become IBF mandatory.

So Stiverne moved up the rankings as people lost or fought for other titles.

Ortiz was interim WBA world heavyweight champion at the time and ineligible to be ranked by the other organizations.

Stiverne (#2) agreed to fight Povetkin (#1) to become the mandatory. Povetkin cheated (again) and was removed from the rankings.

Which is how Stiverne became the mandatory.

[KillaCamNZ]

All of this falls on the WBC. I understand the Povetkin-Stiverne cancellation causing a problem, but at the same time it was their idea to put him back in the rankings after the first failed test. And all of this would have been solved if they had Stiverne and Ortiz fight in a final eliminator and let Stiverne deal with Povetkin in court for the inconvenience.

Yep, this mess is a classic case of the WBC making poor decisions after being heavily influenced by Don King, yet again. There was no justification in making Stiverne the mandatory outright.

[original zero]

Yep, this mess is a classic case of the WBC making poor decisions after being heavily influenced by Don King, yet again. There was no justification in making Stiverne the mandatory outright.

what choice did the WBC have? let a third year go by with no mandatory? demand stiverne fight an eliminator when he was already promised a fight for the interim title?

schedule another interim title fight when wilder was back and available?

no matter how you slice it, don king has a juicy lawsuit if stiverne is not named the mandatory.

and considering wilder won HIS ENTIRE PURSE in court due to povetkin cheating, there is a very good chance stiverne's lawsuit would have been successful.

[_original_]

Oh fooook off Stiverne.

[Fabes88]

Like I said I'll believe the wilder vs Ortiz fight is happening when both men are standing in the ring.

Does this mean wilder is ducking? Because you know aj is ducking wilder according to you guys despite having mandatories and contractually obligated rematches.

[BWC]

Lmao this is hilarious. That picture shows just how scared was scared the first fight. WBC is ****in ****** for even having stiverne as mandatory.

Whomever made this clown the mando should be fired on the spot. This ish is ridiculous

[Jewish-Reptile]

what choice did the WBC have? let a third year go by with no mandatory? demand stiverne fight an eliminator when he was already promised a fight for the interim title?

schedule another interim title fight when wilder was back and available?

no matter how you slice it, don king has a juicy lawsuit if stiverne is not named the mandatory.

and considering wilder won HIS ENTIRE PURSE in court due to povetkin cheating, there is a very good chance stiverne's lawsuit would have been successful.

Where have you read Wilder won his entire purse in court ? Source please.

[BWC]

what choice did the WBC have? let a third year go by with no mandatory? demand stiverne fight an eliminator when he was already promised a fight for the interim title?

schedule another interim title fight when wilder was back and available?

no matter how you slice it, don king has a juicy lawsuit if stiverne is not named the mandatory.

and considering wilder won HIS ENTIRE PURSE in court due to povetkin cheating, there is a very good chance stiverne's lawsuit would have been successful.

Nah he never should have been in the eliminator in the first place. Guy fights a complete no hoper joke and all of a sudden he's in an elimination fight with Sasha, another idiot who had no business being in an eliminator after screwing up a title fight by juicing. So now Wilder is stuck with a mando nobody on the planet will watch and that no broadcaster will pay a dime for, meaning he will probably make a payday of a few thousand dollars.

WBC was truly disgraceful in how they handled this situation, and if they had any decency at all, they would intervene and either work it out with Stivernes camp (ie throw some weight around and show this idiot whos boss), or put up the money for a decent purse.

[Ray*]

I actually feel sorry for Wilder now.