Who hits harder; McGregor or Robert Guerrero?

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  • dan_cov
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    #71
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    You don't reckon? He is a big lump that Diaz and weighs like 170 lbs.

    Reckon Guererro (2013 version) couldn't drop him with 4 oz on?

    If he hit him with a the right shot I guess it could happen but that guy really can take a shot. He really is super durable and fought at 170 a fair few times, I think maybe even above that at catchweights - They're pretty much cutting down from say 190 and the only time he's been dropped with punches was by Conor and only been stopped once by a flush as you like headkick.
    He has a pretty granite chin, certainly one of the very best in MMA.

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      #72
      So Conor has had 1 or 2 actual KOs, and a bunch of their knockdowns that were KOs because in MMA you are allowed to attack a downed opponent.

      Sorry, if Guerrero was wearing 4 oz gloves in boxing he'd have dozens of straight up KOs. Ones where the guy was out before he hit the canvas. McGregor has a couple boxing style KOs in 21 fights. Floyd has more straight KOs than McGregor by a long shot.

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      • dan_cov
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        #73
        Paulie is also a professional boxer does he hit harder than Conor? You put 4oz gloves on him and the only thing he is going to break is a nail.

        There are guys with zero MMA or boxing experience that will have destructive punch power. Some guys will train their whole lives, have great technique, leverage, balance and just be unable to hurt a fly.

        I won't make out he is a Kudryashov, a Kovalev or whoever but he has decent power even with 10s he's going to have some sort of power there. Whether he can get into position to make use of it is another thing.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #74
          It's easier for McGregor to appear as a big puncher when guys aren't in a boxing stance and are incapable of rolling shots, of course that's because they're worried about more than just punches but it's something people keep ignoring.

          It's hard to measure McGregor's power but like Iron, I think Guerrero is probably the only one he may actually hit harder than, that's it.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #75
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            Paulie is also a professional boxer does he hit harder than Conor? You put 4oz gloves on him and the only thing he is going to break is a nail.

            There are guys with zero MMA or boxing experience that will have destructive punch power. Some guys will train their whole lives, have great technique, leverage, balance and just be unable to hurt a fly.

            I won't make out he is a Kudryashov, a Kovalev or whoever but he has decent power even with 10s he's going to have some sort of power there. Whether he can get into position to make use of it is another thing.
            I don't know man, Pauli can't punch but in 4 Oz and if he's hitting those MMA guys he might.

            Or maybe I'm wrong. I don't know anything about MMA.

            Hey have you seen that UFC fighter Mike Perry? He's 10-1 with 10 KO's in UFC he had a boxing match with journeymen and got stopped in 4. Interesting to watch considered he's a massive puncher in UFC but looked like Pauli in his pro boxing debut punch power wise.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #76
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              I don't know man, Pauli can't punch but in 4 Oz and if he's hitting those MMA guys he might.

              Or maybe I'm wrong. I don't know anything about MMA.

              Hey have you seen that UFC fighter Mike Perry? He's 10-1 with 10 KO's in UFC he had a boxing match with journeymen and got stopped in 4. Interesting to watch considered he's a massive puncher in UFC but looked like Pauli in his pro boxing debut punch power wise.
              Might is understatement, he would but that's not a sport Malignaggi can do well in because he isn't strong enough physically. Though his power can be laughable at times when he hits that guy who's lunging in off balance, who's all squared up he'll get knockouts.



              You know something, I just imagined what Malignaggi's ground and pound might look like and I'm laughing over here.

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                #77
                He uses 4oz gloves, easier to KO someone the less padding the gloves have. With 8-10oz you need more skill than brute strength although some fighters hit so hard that their punches hurt even with those boxing gloves. I don't think McGregor is going to be one of those fighters.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                  Might is understatement, he would but that's not a sport Malignaggi can do well in because he isn't strong enough physically. Though his power can be laughable at times when he hits that guy who's lunging in off balance, who's all squared up he'll get knockouts.



                  You know something, I just imagined what Malignaggi's ground and pound might look like and I'm laughing over here.
                  Pauli rocked Juan Diaz remember that?

                  He stopped that journeyman a few years ago. Only fight I ever watched where he stoppes a guy oh yeah and Senchenko aswell.

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                  • dan_cov
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    I don't know man, Pauli can't punch but in 4 Oz and if he's hitting those MMA guys he might.

                    Or maybe I'm wrong. I don't know anything about MMA.

                    Hey have you seen that UFC fighter Mike Perry? He's 10-1 with 10 KO's in UFC he had a boxing match with journeymen and got stopped in 4. Interesting to watch considered he's a massive puncher in UFC but looked like Pauli in his pro boxing debut punch power wise.


                    There is definitely some truth that a lot of these guys in MMA in particular the wrestlers/grapplers can't take a shot well/react funny. A lot of these grapplers have been as ignorant to boxing/kickboxing/ Muay Thai as us boxing fans are to grappling its only the past few years its really come along and they're taking the striking as they call it a lot more serious. And a lot are failed boxers if you will.

                    Another way of looking at it is they have more ways to hide their punches in MMA behind kicks for example so they get caught by an unsuspecting punch easier. Perry has a Mauy Thai background so he will typically set his punches up behind his kicks often.
                    I remember his weigh in debut not long back and instantly hated that guy. I never knew he fought a boxing match so thanks for that it was great seeing him get ktfo. Anyone with ''Gods Gift'' tattooed across their stomach fully deserves to get KTFO

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                    • dan_cov
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                      #80
                      Speaking of Paulie's punch power I just have to repost this gem

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