Is Conor underrated in this matchup?

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  • Zaryu
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    #21
    Short answer from me is no. I've considered all your points, and still believe Connor doesn't stand much of a chance outside of a puncherd chance. And even that I question. I haven't heard anything in regard to his power from sparring partners, but judging by how he develops his power in MMA I don't think he'll be nearly as effective in the boxing ring.

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    • Elroy The Great
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      #22
      Originally posted by Mike D
      Any Floyd haters who are hoping for this would be basically rooting for the death of the sport of boxing. Boxing's credibility is already in the sewers...but if some novice 0-0 barely amateur level "boxer" comes in and gives Floyd hell, or God forbid beats him, I honestly don't see any conceivable way the sport survives such a thing.
      may isnt book smart and may be broke in a few years, but his ego keeps him focused. no fncking way mr debut beats may.

      i dont even care about buster beating beating tyson (along with mcbride and williams). may is superior to tyson. those guys were professional (and shltty) boxers.

      mr debut winning a single rd would be an astronomical achievement.

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      • kafkod
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        #23
        Originally posted by Mike D
        Any Floyd haters who are hoping for this would be basically rooting for the death of the sport of boxing. Boxing's credibility is already in the sewers...but if some novice 0-0 barely amateur level "boxer" comes in and gives Floyd hell, or God forbid beats him, I honestly don't see any conceivable way the sport survives such a thing.
        Boxing would survive if Connor beat Floyd, but the reputation of the sport would be severly damaged, especially in the USA, no doubt about that.

        If you're a boxing fan, no matter how much you hate Floyd, you should be rooting for him in this fight.

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Antonio-
          He's going to be difficult at first because he is rangy and he DOES have some skill. He can labf thst left hand with pretty good timing and precision.

          When I say at first though I mean maybe the first 3 rounds at best. And Floyd will still probably win those rounds, I just think we might see him take at least one big punch and Conor might get off a partially blocked flurry that makes the crowd go crazy.

          I don't buy the power thing that much in boxing with 10 ounce gloves and a moving target. Conor has landed flush before and not hurt the guy. They make it seem like he has Julian Jackson type power. Sure there is a small chance he rocks Floyd since Floyd has almost always been the longer guy and HE IS 40.

          But seriously after the first few rounds it should be target practice. ESPECIALLY with the check hook. If Conor starts getting aggressive there is no way Floyd won't land that at will. Conor leans in with his left and he is not as quick as Pacquiao to move out of the way.

          By the middle rounds when Conor is tires Floyd will start to time that right hand and it's going to be embarrassing. I'm expecting Conor's corner to stop the fight in the 9th or 10th.
          I think that is a pretty good breakdown. I see it somewhat similar, although I might give Conor a little more credit. I think Conor will look a lot better than expected early, but skills and conditioning will show more as the fight wears on. I also think he is likely to be embarrassed late in the fight.

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          • Mukuro
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            #25
            Originally posted by Zaryu
            Short answer from me is no. I've considered all your points, and still believe Connor doesn't stand much of a chance outside of a puncherd chance. And even that I question. I haven't heard anything in regard to his power from sparring partners, but judging by how he develops his power in MMA I don't think he'll be nearly as effective in the boxing ring.
            The South African guy who fought Spence confirmed that he has power, but wasn't really effusive about it. To be fair, that guy has a great chin and they were wearing pillows.

            I agree we can't take too much for granted about how his power translates into professional boxing, but I expect him to at least have a respectable punch.

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            • Zaryu
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              #26
              Originally posted by Mukuro
              The South African guy who fought Spence confirmed that he has power, but wasn't really effusive about it. To be fair, that guy has a great chin and they were wearing pillows.

              I agree we can't take too much for granted about how his power translates into professional boxing, but I expect him to at least have a respectable punch.
              That's good to know. For me though, that doesn't change much. I don't believe Connor has the boxing ability to land on Floyd enough times, or clean enough, to be competitive in the fight. And by competitive I mean him at least creating the illusion that he could beat Floyd, even if he never gets ahead on the scorecards.

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              • SplitSecond
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                #27
                Well yea, some people seem to legit think conor can't win, which is just not realistic, any other top combatant has a chance and conor happens to have many advantages in this fight.

                With that said I think floyd wins, even if conor gives him a fight, I think floyd can just as well maul and outbrawl him, mma guys, conor esspecially has a nonexistent inside game.

                Floyd can't underestimate him that's for sure, and with floyds personality it is unlikely he will. It's not a fight floyd can halfass like some think, for him to make it look easy, he's going to have to put in 100%.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by el***
                  No. Let me present my case.

                  Exhibit 1:





                  Rest my case.
                  Sparring videos may not mean much.

                  I mean, he could decide to come out like Peter McNeely against Tyson...knowing Floyd doesn't have Tyson's power.

                  He loses either way, so maybe he'll decide to at least make it exciting for a few minutes....after which he'd probably gas out and Mayweather would toy with him as he pleases.

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                    #29
                    No. Because what good is power if you aren't use to controlling range and using feints, counters and other boxing skills to set up your power shots?

                    Is he going to set traps and bait Floyd into committing and land a power shot? I don't see that happening. Floyd's struggled the most with fighters who can smother and throw shots in the pocket.

                    He can't attack relentlessly because he's not an inside fighter that can generate power up close. In the UFC, you can't box inside because of the threat of take downs. He's used to boxing at a range where Floyd is virtually unbeatable. This is not something he will learn overnight.

                    Awkwardness can be an advantage but Floyd has seen awkward fighters before (i.e. Maidana) and was able to adjust.


                    I just don't see this being competitive. I think McGregor fares worst than Berto.

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                    • TheBigLug
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                      #30
                      Underrated? apparently the bookies give him a better shot to win than they did Cotto. You can't really go by the bookies though i guess, betting money dictates the odds too.

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