why dont we see any fighters with 100 plus wins anymore...

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  • ROSEWOOD
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    #21
    Originally posted by Azteca
    boxing's done. stick a fork in it. i give it another 5-10 years and UFC/pride will surpass it.
    playa..ufc/pride are sports of there own..boxing will never be finished...it was here before you and I....and it will be here after us...pride sucks anyway...

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    • Kball15
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      #22
      exactly. this is why boxing could be so easy to fix. just get a commisioner. A guy that runs everything. u could potentially keep everything the same for a long while, if u have a governing body to keep it straight and on track. This is partly the reason NFL is so succesful. They have enforcers. If someone gets out of line, they do suspend and fine people immidiatly. The NFL (my favorite sport, tied with boxing) has been so succesful in the past few years, that it is now americas past time (taken over baseball!!! this a fact by the way. The NFL is the most popular sport in america) and in a few more years, major rivalry games and possibly the superbowl will be placed on PPV. its all possible, but unlikely

      Once boxing gets in serious trouble, it could probably get fixed in a year or two max. Boxing isnt a dying sport because major victories are posted on the front page of newspapers, on AOLs welcome screen, and the front of ESPN.com

      But seriously, lets get back on the topic. I agree that fighters might be taking more damage due to the need to make weight. but i dont think thats the true reason. i think that because we now know a lot more medical stuff, fighters know that they wont be able to fight for a long time if they fight their hardest every fight. Doctors and trainers probably advise them to keep away from fighting for as long as possible

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      • ferocity
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        #23
        Originally posted by Azteca
        because of this new "ppv" era. fighters today are protected, coddled and misused by promoters for their own personal gain.
        i aggree, its more about protecting a fighter with an undefeated record then to show case his skills around the world to the paying public

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        • Azteca
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          #24
          Originally posted by jason100x
          Does anyone know how the UFC PPVs perform in terms of buy rates as opposed to the average of boxing PPVs?
          no, but if i were to guess boxing would be higher. but, UFC is getting bigger. just think about it. i've been to many fights in the past 17+ years that i have been watching and the past 5 years i have noticed a drop in the younger population.

          the average fan want's quick knockouts and/or competitive bouts. i don't see this anymore. the only company that puts on great, competitive bouts is showtime. hbo is the leader but it is far behind showtime in terms of the fight quality.

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          • ferocity
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            #25
            Originally posted by Rosewood_htown
            Because of that 2 fights/yr **** these fighters today are on....the studying of an opp. is at an all-time high in the sport today...boxers study evrything from head moves to the number of blinks a fighter takes before swing...those days of taking weeks notice for a fight are over and gone..i take that back...upcoming fighters still do it to get more fighter under their belts..
            lol, so true for some fighters

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            • ferocity
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              #26
              Originally posted by machotime
              You must be right, I should have seen that coming

              Nothing better than two barefoot men hugging eachother on the ground for 15 minutes.
              LOL, exactly, add humping the other fightes back, the ufc **** is for wrestling fans

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              • ROSEWOOD
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                #27
                Originally posted by ferocity
                lol, so true for some fighters
                very true for alot of fighters i believe...all sports have a study session, why not boxing...

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                • jason100x
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Azteca
                  no, but if i were to guess boxing would be higher. but, UFC is getting bigger. just think about it. i've been to many fights in the past 17+ years that i have been watching and the past 5 years i have noticed a drop in the younger population.

                  the average fan want's quick knockouts and/or competitive bouts. i don't see this anymore. the only company that puts on great, competitive bouts is showtime. hbo is the leader but it is far behind showtime in terms of the fight quality.
                  I'll agree with that. I always saw better fights overall on Showtime than HBO, but HBO has the larger advertising budget and therefore the higher profile so more than a few people think those fights are all boxing has to offer and don't see the Showtime fights.

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                  • Kball15
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                    #29
                    i never heard of showtime before castillo carrales. and while showtime has a lot of better fights, HBO still has paquioa, barrera, morrales, hatton, Cotto, mayweather, and winky

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                    • ferocity
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                      #30
                      i read someone say fighters don't fight as often cause they got to cut down weight well, that can't be the only reson. i remember reading a few books were fighter had to drop weight quickly cause they had a fight offered to them and at quick notice so they dropped weight. and plus, as mentioned their ain't as many fights going on as their was back then. and boxers today get paid a lot of money compared to back in the day.

                      one of the main reasons american fighters had so many fights was because part of it was because of the depression, anytime a fighter could get a fight they took it. if one fighter could fighter every week he did.

                      i think the main reson american fighters today don't fight as much is because their is more money in boxing then their was back then. and they have to protect their unbeaten record cause all it take is one title shot and that fighters makes a lot of money depending on who is champion at the time.

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