Round 9 Is No Way A 10-8 Round and If You Think So YDKSAB!

[Code Red]

A better question is why was Teddy Atlas so insistent to score it a 10-8, Horn didn't go down nor was he ever at a point where he wasn't defending himself. Sympathizers where literally arguing how can manny lose with a 10-8 round. None of the judges scored it 10-8 but yet they are using teddy Atlas scorecard as if it's official!

[uppercut510]

I agree, teddy atlas was in rare form, he was definitely tripping... no way u give a 10-8 round with no knock down

[1hourRun]

While I would like to live in a world where there was some leeway allowed when it comes this sort of thing -- I hate the fact that you can have a dominant round (round 9 a perfect example), that carries the same weight as a round that's razor thin all the way through and is separated by a single landed jab or two; as someone put it the other day that's like Team A beating Team B 20-17 in the first quarter of a basketball game, and then Team A loses the second quarter 32-19 and then it's 1-1 at halftime, lol. The scoring system is archaic. It's some Jurassic era type **** for real.

That said, we don't live in a world like that and we do live in a world where a razor thin round carries the same exact weight as a blowout, one sided round.

There wasn't a knockdown and Horn, while getting battered, was never out on his feet (although he was getting there). So yeah, 10-9 round.

Greened...

[uppercut510]

A better question is why was Teddy Atlas so insistent to score it a 10-8, Horn didn't go down nor was he ever at a point where he wasn't defending himself. Sympathizers where literally arguing how can manny lose with a 10-8 round. None of the judges scored it 10-8 but yet they are using teddy Atlas scorecard as if it's official!

the same teddy atlas they hated for years

[Code Red]

While I would like to live in a world where there was some leeway allowed when it comes this sort of thing -- I hate the fact that you can have a dominant round (round 9 a perfect example), that carries the same weight as a round that's razor thin all the way through and is separated by a single landed jab or two; as someone put it the other day that's like Team A beating Team B 20-17 in the first quarter of a basketball game, and then Team A loses the second quarter 32-19 and then it's 1-1 at halftime, lol. The scoring system is archaic. It's some Jurassic era type **** for real.

That said, we don't live in a world like that and we do live in a world where a razor thin round carries the same exact weight as a blowout, one sided round.

There wasn't a knockdown and Horn, while getting battered, was never out on his feet (although he was getting there). So yeah, 10-9 round.

If a guy gets hurt in a round but yet he doesn't go down, he continues to fight and he continues to defend himself then why would you take his point away? The fact that he was hurt and refused to go down is why you score it 10-9, if you are going to score it 10-8 anyway then he may as well have took a knee and avoided the punishment altogether!

Now if you're being beat from post to post defenseless and the bell saves you then sure, 10-8, but that's not what happened with PAC-Horn.

[Mike D]

If a guy gets hurt in a round but yet he doesn't go down, he continues to fight and he continues to defend himself then why would you take his point away? The fact that he was hurt and refused to go down is why you score it 10-9, if you are going to score it 10-8 anyway then he may as well have took a knee and avoided the punishment altogether!

That part I highlighted in bold is a great point. Very valid point.

But still, there's just something about a totally one sided round weighing the exact same as a coin flip round. I mean think about it...theoretically, you could have a boxer who wins 6 decisive, totally one sided rounds -- but with no KD's. And then the other guy eeks out all 6 of his rounds. And that's a draw??

But that said you still made an excellent point.

[Code Red]

That part I highlighted in bold is a great point. Very valid point.

But still, there's just something about a totally one sided round weighing the exact same as a coin flip round. I mean think about it...theoretically, you could have a boxer who wins 6 decisive, totally one sided rounds -- but with no KD's. And then the other guy eeks out all 6 of his rounds. And that's a draw??

But that said you still made an excellent point.

I get your point but It basically comes down to 10 point must system as a way for fighters to not fall way behind on the scorecard or making it impossible for them to mount a points comeback. 10-9 is to keep it close, too many no knockdown 10-8 rounds and it becomes unfair to the guy falling behind

[Damn Wicked]

While I would like to live in a world where there was some leeway allowed when it comes this sort of thing -- I hate the fact that you can have a dominant round (round 9 a perfect example), that carries the same weight as a round that's razor thin all the way through and is separated by a single landed jab or two; as someone put it the other day that's like Team A beating Team B 20-17 in the first quarter of a basketball game, and then Team A loses the second quarter 32-19 and then it's 1-1 at halftime, lol. The scoring system is archaic. It's some Jurassic era type **** for real.

That said, we don't live in a world like that and we do live in a world where a razor thin round carries the same exact weight as a blowout, one sided round.

There wasn't a knockdown and Horn, while getting battered, was never out on his feet (although he was getting there). So yeah, 10-9 round.

Really good points you made! Boxing really does need to change the points system.

I considered it a 10-9 round for Pac. The reason is that Horn was fighting well at the beginning of the round and he kept his cool when he was hurting, as well as countering Pac with a few good shots. Because of the awareness and control that Horn showed I thought he might not be as hurt as many people assumed he was. The way Horn came back immediately at the start of round 10 made me feel that that belief was justifiable.

[THC]

...theoretically, you could have a boxer who wins 6 decisive, totally one sided rounds -- but with no KD's. And then the other guy eeks out all 6 of his rounds. And that's a draw??

Eliminate the 10-point must rule. That would result in a 6-0 score, victory to the fighter who clearly dominated those six rounds. Boxers who try to steal rounds by a margin of a single jab would never win fights.

[j.razor]

the same teddy atlas they hated for years

Teddy is usually okay but I think someone put some extra $ in his pockets.....