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  • #21
    Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
    Excuses, excuses.
    the facts are not on your side. crying "excuses" in the face of indisputable fact is extremely cowardly.

    if you want to live your life as a negative hater, be my guest. but just know that to intelligent civilized people, it's very obvious your negativity is caused by lack of sex.
    Last edited by original zero; 07-07-2017, 04:30 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by original zero View Post
      the facts are not on your side. crying "excuses" in the fact of indisputable fact is extremely cowardly.

      if you want to live your life as a negative hater, be my guest. but just know that to intelligent civilized people, it's very obvious your negativity is caused by lack of sex.
      You confuse fact with fiction. Reality. Fantasies are caused by a lack of common sense. You need to see a psychiatrist. But with your advanced condition I doubt it will help.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
        You confuse fact with fiction.
        oh i do? well please, let us know which of these is fiction:

        wilder was the mandatory when he won the title, meaning a mandatory wasnt due until 2016.

        when wilder tried to fight povetkin in early 2016, povetkin refused.

        when wilder tried to fight povetkin later in 2016, povetkin cheated.

        when another eliminator was ordered, povetkin cheated again.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by original zero View Post
          After Povetkin failed his drug test and lost his mandatory shot against Wilder, a settlement was reached and Povetkin was to face Stiverne for the interim title, with the winner facing Wilder.

          Povetkin failed ANOTHER drug test and that fight was canceled.

          Stiverne's promoter argued that since he had agreed to fight Povetkin, he shouldn't have to wait even longer for a title shot. Wasn't his fault Povetkin cheated AGAIN.

          Which is how Stiverne ended up as the mandatory.

          The courts determined that Wilder was entitled to his entire purse (including winner bonus) for the canceled Povetkin fight, as if he won.

          And Don King was threatening to sue the WBC if they didn't treat Stiverne as if he'd won and named him mandatory.

          With Wilder having been champion for two years without ever making a mandatory defense due to Povetkin's multiple delays, Stiverne lucked out that he was named mandatory without winning an eliminator.

          But the WBC didn't really have much of a choice.
          But is it really the right decision to award stiverne the mandatory spot without winning a significant fight since his loss?

          Its not his fault that povetkin was busted, but stiverne is just way undeserving to be mandatory.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by asgarth View Post
            But is it really the right decision to award stiverne the mandatory spot without winning a significant fight since his loss?
            Is it ideal? No. Is it what you or I would have preferred? No. Is it what anybody other than Don King would have preferred? No.

            But Don King was threatening to sue if Stiverne wasn't named the mandatory and based on how Wilder's lawsuit turned out against Povetkin, if I was the WBC, I would not have wanted to fight Don King in court.

            Wilder was awarded his ENTIRE purse for the canceled Povetkin fight, including the winner's bonus.

            After that court decision, the idea that a court would rule that Stiverne was entitled to the mandatory position as if he'd defeated Povetkin is not outrageous. We'll never know for sure how a court would have ruled, but with Wilder's mandatory long overdue, Don King's position had some merit and it would have been unwise for the WBC to order another eliminator and have to deal with fighting King in court.

            Stiverne is the former champion. He dropped appropriately in the ratings after losing the title. He moved his way up as the fighters in front of him chose to fight for other titles. At this point, there's no way to get rid of Stiverne. That mandatory is going to have to happen.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by original zero View Post
              Is it ideal? No. Is it what you or I would have preferred? No. Is it what anybody other than Don King would have preferred? No.

              But Don King was threatening to sue if Stiverne wasn't named the mandatory and based on how Wilder's lawsuit turned out against Povetkin, if I was the WBC, I would not have wanted to fight Don King in court.

              Wilder was awarded his ENTIRE purse for the canceled Povetkin fight, including the winner's bonus.

              After that court decision, the idea that a court would rule that Stiverne was entitled to the mandatory position as if he'd defeated Povetkin is not outrageous. We'll never know for sure how a court would have ruled, but with Wilder's mandatory long overdue, Don King's position had some merit and it would have been unwise for the WBC to order another eliminator and have to deal with fighting King in court.

              Stiverne is the former champion. He dropped appropriately in the ratings after losing the title. He moved his way up as the fighters in front of him chose to fight for other titles. At this point, there's no way to get rid of Stiverne. That mandatory is going to have to happen.
              Ok fair game, but what is theb the holdup? Cant they just get the stiverne fight done, if there is no other alternatice other than very unlikely unification fights at the moment?

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              • #27
                wbc can shove those diamond belts up their asses.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by original zero View Post
                  oh i do? well please, let us know which of these is fiction:

                  wilder was the mandatory when he won the title, meaning a mandatory wasnt due until 2016.

                  when wilder tried to fight povetkin in early 2016, povetkin refused.

                  when wilder tried to fight povetkin later in 2016, povetkin cheated.

                  when another eliminator was ordered, povetkin cheated again.
                  Have you ever heard the saying you can't fix ****** ? I have, so I'm not going to bother anymore

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
                    Have you ever heard the saying you can't fix ****** ? I have, so I'm not going to bother anymore
                    Wow, how convenient?!? When asked to back up your position, you quit and run away. Never would have guessed . . .

                    All you trolls are exactly the same. Can't get laid. Whine and moan online. When faced with fact, you squirm and fold.

                    All you had to do was explain which of those statements were fiction. You couldn't. But you're not man enough to admit you were wrong.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
                      Sulaiman back at it again with yet another b.s. belt. Next up he'll introduce the prestigious...

                      Flying Tuna Belt
                      Wearing Panties On Head Belt
                      Flog A Seal Belt
                      Drunken Sulaiman Belt
                      Tip Your Waitresses Belt
                      Beeraholic Belt
                      Flatulent Moose Belt
                      Cowboys Who Can't Yodel Belt
                      Huge Flotation Device Belt
                      Greedy WBC B.S. Belt
                      The Fat Lady Sings Belt

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