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    #171
    Originally posted by NahMean
    I believe if Wilder wanted the fight then Stiverne wouldnt be an issue and would gladly step aside.
    If the fight makes business sense, then Wilder will want it. If it doesn't, he won't. Hearn is "negotiating" through the media to drum up interest in Whyte before his upcoming fight in the US.

    Haymon doesn't negotiate through the media. He doesn't care what internet nerds think. He's focused on the big picture.

    If fighting Whyte makes sense, Wilder will fight him. But you guys went on and on about how ****** Wilder was for turning down 3 million and waddya know, now it's 4.5. So who was ******? Not Wilder. You.

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      #172
      Originally posted by original zero
      If the fight makes business sense, then Wilder will want it. If it doesn't, he won't. Hearn is "negotiating" through the media to drum up interest in Whyte before his upcoming fight in the US.

      Haymon doesn't negotiate through the media. He doesn't care what internet nerds think. He's focused on the big picture.

      If fighting Whyte makes sense, Wilder will fight him. But you guys went on and on about how ****** Wilder was for turning down 3 million and waddya know, now it's 4.5. So who was ******? Not Wilder. You.
      No mate... Wilder is pricing himself out from his career highest payday.. Think that makes him the ****** one..but hes not doing it because he's ******, he's doing it because he's scared.

      Business sense? If he wins this fight it absolutely brings him closer to fighting AJ, no one can deny that.. He wants AJ doesn't he?? Ypu have to remember the only other choice is Stiverne so ask your self which is the "better business move" 5million + UK exposure + lines him up for a shot at AJ or less than a Million for a fight no one wants to see.

      Whyte isnt no world beater.. but he is the better option of the! If Wilder doesn't fight Whyte and fights Ortiz instead no one is going to complain.. But that's not exactly going to happen is it.
      Last edited by NahMean; 07-05-2017, 10:43 AM.

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        #173
        Originally posted by NahMean
        No mate... Wilder is pricing himself out from his career highest payday.. Think that makes him the ****** one..but hes not doing it because he's ******, he's doing it because he's scared.
        You keep posting the same false information over and over. Wilder's career high pay day was $5 million for Pokvetkin, which even though the fight was canceled, Wilder was still awarded by the courts.

        You have no idea if Wilder is pricing himself out of anything because you are getting one side of the story and that side is purposely misleading you. Good faith negotiations do not take place through the media. Propaganda is what takes place through the media. Turning down 3 doesn't make you ****** if the next day it's 4.5. That meant you were a genius for turning down 3 and anybody who said you should have accepted 3 was an idiot. So you need to accept that you're an idiot.


        Business sense? If he wins this fight it absolutely brings him closer to fighting AJ, no one can deny that.. He wants AJ doesn't he??
        Beating Whyte has nothing to do with Joshua. Pure propaganda from Hearn that you bought hook, line and sinker. AJ & Wilder will definitely fight if they both keep winning. Nothing brings the fight closer other than time. AJ needs time to take care of mandatories and he also needs time to fight Fury if Fury is a possibility. Hearn won't allow a Wilder fight before a Fury fight unless a Fury fight is impossible.


        Ypu have to remember the only other choice is Stiverne so ask your self which is the "better business move" 5million + UK exposure + lines him up for a shot at AJ or less than a Million for a fight no one wants to see. Whyte isnt no world beater.. but he is the better option of the! If Wilder doesn't fight Whyte and fights Ortiz instead no one is going to complain.. But that's not exactly going to happen is it.
        Ortiz isn't available. He's Joshua's mandatory. Stop posting the same false nonsense over and over.

        You have no idea what the better business move is. You're not smarter than Al Haymon.

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          #174
          Originally posted by original zero
          You keep posting the same false information over and over. Wilder's career high pay day was $5 million for Pokvetkin, which even though the fight was canceled, Wilder was still awarded by the courts.

          You have no idea if Wilder is pricing himself out of anything because you are getting one side of the story and that side is purposely misleading you. Good faith negotiations do not take place through the media. Propaganda is what takes place through the media. Turning down 3 doesn't make you ****** if the next day it's 4.5. That meant you were a genius for turning down 3 and anybody who said you should have accepted 3 was an idiot. So you need to accept that you're an idiot.




          Beating Whyte has nothing to do with Joshua. Pure propaganda from Hearn that you bought hook, line and sinker. AJ & Wilder will definitely fight if they both keep winning. Nothing brings the fight closer other than time. AJ needs time to take care of mandatories and he also needs time to fight Fury if Fury is a possibility. Hearn won't allow a Wilder fight before a Fury fight unless a Fury fight is impossible.




          Ortiz isn't available. He's Joshua's mandatory. Stop posting the same false nonsense over and over.

          You have no idea what the better business move is. You're not smarter than Al Haymon.

          1. Your’re an idiot. You have no idea how civil cases work.. He hasn’t been paid ****.. Wilder and team won a case where they requested 5million in damages. Even if they got paid 5 mill Wilder would only see a fraction of that once all parties have been paid off. The court hasn’t paid anyone anything as Povetkin’s team have put in a counterclaim for around 40 million! This will delay the process even longer.. If you knew anything about civil cases you’d know that it will take years before anyone gets paid and winning party will not be making anything close to the amount they requested in the first place!

          2. Wilder’s purse against Povetkin was around 4.5million fixed (Which he did not earn) so this offer for 4.5 plus US revenue is as a matter of fact his biggest payday offer yet. One side of the story? Wilder said out his own mouth he will only fight Whyte for 7mill.. He also admitted that Hearn wouldn’t pay him that much.. so you don’t need me to tell you he’s priced himself out.. He said so himself. He asked for 7mill… 7MILL!!! That’s the definition of a price out.. Do you really need more evidence? He's pull the wool over you fanboys eyes.. you cant see the obvious truth when its right in front of you.

          3. You’re a bigger idiot than I thought you were in point 1. A win over Whyte does nothing for Wilder vs AJ ??? I'm not sure there is any better promotion for that fight than Wilder vs Whyte. Even Hearn said the winner of that fight will put them self in a position for a unification with AJ. But noooo according to you it brings Wilder no closer to AJ lol yea he should continue fighting bums.. “Time” will make that fight happed because time itself is a promotional tool LMAO.

          5. You telling me Ortiz is gona sit there for over a year waiting for AJ to fight Vlad, then fight Pulev before he gets his shot?? Don’t be dumb.. Why doesn’t Wilder give him a shot at the WBC?? So you don't want him to give Ortiz a shot.. You dont think he should accept a career high payday against Whyte.. Its no wonder he gets away with fighting bums all his career.. You Wilder fanboys are just as delusional as him! Don't bother replying because I've had enough of your nonsense.
          Last edited by NahMean; 07-05-2017, 06:42 PM.

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            #175
            Originally posted by NahMean
            1. Your’re an idiot. You have no idea how civil cases work.. He hasn’t been paid ****.. Wilder and team won a case where they requested 5million in damages. Even if they got paid 5 mill Wilder would only see a fraction of that once all parties have been paid off. The court hasn’t paid anyone anything as Povetkin’s team have put in a counterclaim for around 40 million! This will delay the process even longer.. If you knew anything about civil cases you’d know that it will take years before anyone gets paid and winning party will not be making anything close to the amount they requested in the first place!

            2. Wilder’s purse against Povetkin was around 4.5million fixed (Which he did not earn) so this offer for 4.5 plus US revenue is as a matter of fact his biggest payday offer yet. One side of the story? Wilder said out his own mouth he will only fight Whyte for 7mill.. He also admitted that Hearn wouldn’t pay him that much.. so you don’t need me to tell you he’s priced himself out.. He said so himself. He asked for 7mill… 7MILL!!! That’s the definition of a price out.. Do you really need more evidence? He's pull the wool over you fanboys eyes.. you cant see the obvious truth when its right in front of you.

            3. You’re a bigger idiot than I thought you were in point 1. A win over Whyte does nothing for Wilder vs AJ ??? I'm not sure there is any better promotion for that fight than Wilder vs Whyte. Even Hearn said the winner of that fight will put them self in a position for a unification with AJ. But noooo according to you it brings Wilder no closer to AJ lol yea he should continue fighting bums.. “Time” will make that fight happed because time itself is a promotional tool LMAO.

            5. You telling me Ortiz is gona sit there for over a year waiting for AJ to fight Vlad, then fight Pulev before he gets his shot?? Don’t be dumb.. Why doesn’t Wilder give him a shot at the WBC?? So you don't want him to give Ortiz a shot.. You dont think he should accept a career high payday against Whyte.. Its no wonder he gets away with fighting bums all his career.. You Wilder fanboys are just as delusional as him! Don't bother replying because I've had enough of your nonsense.
            Mr.Zero also thought/thinks( bc hes a true moron with no logic)that fighting in Alabama is more impressive than representing an entire country in the U.K and also thinks bc Alabama is bigger its more important to fight there....hes a true top fool on here with the other crew. lol

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              #176
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              Mr.Zero also thought/thinks( bc hes a true moron with no logic)that fighting in Alabama is more impressive than representing an entire country in the U.K and also thinks bc Alabama is bigger its more important to fight there....hes a true top fool on here with the other crew. lol
              And they say I'm apparently the one who's posting false information lol these Wilder fan boys must be feeling dizzy. Sad thing is I've been a Wilder fan longer than his fanboys. I've followed Wilder's career since way back in 2008/09 when Wawrzyk was being looked at as a good style match up opponent for Wilder... Little did I know that sevral years later Wilder would become a world champion and they would still be looking to fight guys on the level of Wawrzyk. I mean, Wawrzyk was meant to be his very last fight till he popped dirty and Washington took the fight on short notice! And they wonder why people call him bumsquad. It's a joke how anyone can support him after damn near 40 bum fights.
              Last edited by NahMean; 07-05-2017, 11:06 PM.

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                #177
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                Mr.Zero also thought/thinks( bc hes a true moron with no logic)that fighting in Alabama is more impressive than representing an entire country in the U.K and also thinks bc Alabama is bigger its more important to fight there....hes a true top fool on here with the other crew. lol
                Not sure why you're lying about what I wrote when anybody can go through my posting history and see exactly what I wrote.

                Made no mention whatsoever of what was more impressive. So you're either lying, or too ****** to know what words mean.

                The point I raised is that it's hypocritical to chastise an American fighter for fighting in his home state unless you're willing to apply the same criticism to an international fighter fighting in his home country. Alabama is bigger than England. I would never criticize Joshua for fighting in England to maximize revenue and it's equally ludicrous to criticize Wilder for fighting in Alabama to maximize revenue.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by NahMean
                  1. Your’re an idiot.
                  Then PLEASE bet me on which of us will test higher on an intelligence assessment. Put your money where your mouth is.


                  You have no idea how civil cases work..
                  I've been involved in many civil cases and know quite well how they work. My father, mother, sister, grandfather and great grandfather are all attorneys and I am well versed in the family business.


                  He hasn’t been paid ****.. Wilder and team won a case where they requested 5million in damages. Even if they got paid 5 mill Wilder would only see a fraction of that once all parties have been paid off.
                  And when you fight, you only see a fraction of your purse once all parties have been paid off. That's how life works.


                  The court hasn’t paid anyone anything as Povetkin’s team have put in a counterclaim for around 40 million! This will delay the process even longer.. If you knew anything about civil cases you’d know that it will take years before anyone gets paid and winning party will not be making anything close to the amount they requested in the first place!
                  The court doesn't pay anyone. Guess it's you that has no idea how civil cases work. World of Boxing's defamation suit is neutered the second the first jury agrees that Dibella was telling the truth about Povetkin being a cheater. Guess it's you that has no idea how civil cases work. Wilder's purse was in escrow from the purse bid, a defamation suit doesn't stop the funds from being released. Guess it's you that has no idea how civil cases work. Often takes years to get paid because you have to chase the money, but in this instance, the money was already being held in escrow, making it impossible for the defendants to duck the judgement. Guess it's you that has no idea how civil cases work.


                  2. Wilder’s purse against Povetkin was around 4.5million fixed (Which he did not earn) so this offer for 4.5 plus US revenue is as a matter of fact his biggest payday offer yet.
                  Plus WBC purse bid win bonus, so Wilder was entitled to 5.2 million if he won, and the win bonus was also being held in escrow and the courts awarded him the full amount, making 5.2 million his highest purse.


                  3. You’re a bigger idiot than I thought you were in point 1.
                  Then PLEASE bet me on which of us will test higher on an intelligence assessment. Put your money where your mouth is.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by original zero
                    Not sure why you're lying about what I wrote when anybody can go through my posting history and see exactly what I wrote.

                    Made no mention whatsoever of what was more impressive. So you're either lying, or too ****** to know what words mean.

                    The point I raised is that it's hypocritical to chastise an American fighter for fighting in his home state unless you're willing to apply the same criticism to an international fighter fighting in his home country. Alabama is bigger than England. I would never criticize Joshua for fighting in England to maximize revenue and it's equally ludicrous to criticize Wilder for fighting in Alabama to maximize revenue.
                    And your history would show exactly what i just stated along with you using Wilder with more twitter followers compared to Whyte as evidance why he should fight in Alabama and not in the U.K . even though the U.S has 5 x the population and Wilder than gets even less exposure ? Wilder only hss 100,000 more followers than Whyte anyway and hes a world champion ?

                    You still cant even comprehend the difference between fighting in a COUNTRY and a state which does not remotely generate the same impact ,which has already been shown bc he cant even sell out his OWN arena .What a fool you are !
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-06-2017, 02:44 AM.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      And your history would show exactly what i just stated
                      Wrong. Never said anything about what was more impressive. You made that up. I said Alabama was bigger than England, so making fun of Wilder for fighting in Alabama is just as silly as making fun of Joshua for fighting in England. No mention of one being more impressive than the other. You're lying.



                      along with you using Wilder with more twitter followers compared to Whyte as evidance why he should fight in Alabama and not in the U.K . even though the U.S has 5 x the population and Wilder than gets even less exposure ? Wilder only hss 100,000 more followers than Whyte anyway and hes a world champion ?
                      Again, you're lying. I said Wilder has more fans than Whyte, which he does, not that he shouldn't fight in the UK.


                      What a fool you are !
                      Then PLEASE bet me on which of us will test higher on an intelligence assessment. Put your money where your mouth is.

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