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  • The Big Dunn
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    #61
    Originally posted by HeadShots
    So when they face someone that's some offensive juggernaut, all they have to do is slow-down the pace by excessive clinching with a defensive minded approach to not give many openings.... then in a slow round, it automatically goes to them. there's this sentiment that they are winning because they got the offensive opponent to fight at their pace.


    This is why offensive fighters don't age well like Pac. They could still very well win a fight with their actual skills.... but the noticeable decline in their physical attributes give the impression they are losing. Oh how come he can't blast him like he did Margarito doe?

    Same emotional phenom with GGG/Jacobs. Oh he couldn't even hurt Jacobs this round. So I'll give the round to Jacobs.

    They set the expectations too high. at the cost of entertaining fans and being real fighters.

    It truly is unfortunate that boxing Is A Sport Judged On Emotions.
    Mayweather and Ward are successful because they have worked harder and longer on their skill and technique than most other fighters.

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #62
      Originally posted by Tabaristio
      Overall, yes it is roughly. However, GGG is evidently a 'better', more 'skilled' boxer because he consistently wins his bouts by a bigger margin than Andre Ward does against similar caliber of opposition.



      Golovkin seems like a humble person who doesn't necessarily think he is better than boxers from other divisions.

      I can provide the same challenge to you, by claiming if Ward thought he was a better fighter than Wladimir Klitschko, why didn't he move up and challenge him?

      In other words, I'm not going by what Golovkin thinks. I'm going by what has actually happened.



      Based on consistent evidence, GGG is better!



      I know the difference between an 'accidental' foul / headbutt and an intentional one.

      A rare, unusual or an uncommon foul committed by a boxer can be considered an accident. However, when a foul is committed CONSISTENTLY, over and over again by a specific boxer, then that has to be considered intentional and not 'accidental'. Someone can't foul consistently whilst it being an accident.

      An accidental foul is when Roy Jones Jr unintentionally hit Montell Griffin when he was down during the heat of the moment and got disqualified. Why? Because Roy Jones jr never did such a thing again.

      However, Andre Ward consistently commits fouls / illegal moves such as headbutts, excessive clinching, holding and hitting, landing punches with the illegal parts of the gloves and so forth so on. There are at least 3 former opponents of Andre Ward who have complained (Sergey Kovalev, Carl Froch and Mikkel Kessler) that Andre Ward is a dirty fighter and especially a headbutter in the ring. When such a thing happens, you have to be extremely biased, deluded and narrow minded to think Andre Ward is committing such illegal moves accidentally.



      So you're admitting that Andre Ward cheats for 10% of his fights and fights cleanly the other 90%?

      Ignoring all of Ward's fights against journeymen / bums, every bout he has won against a top level opponent had illegal move / fouls which contributed to his win.

      How about you highlight those other 90% of legal boxing moves that Andre Ward uses to win his bouts?



      Lomachenko was winning every round against Walters. He quit, most likely because he didn't believe he could've won.

      However, the point is whether Walters is a better boxer than Orlando Salido. Are you seriously still arguing that Orlando Salido is a better boxer than Nicholas Walters?



      If you're referring to Kell Brook against GGG, then you do realize that after the fight, Kell Brook had to have a surgery / operation on his eye socket, where his eye ball had to be removed?

      Are you honestly going to argue that Kell Brook wouldn't have even more damage to his eyes had the fight continued past the 5th round (the round when Brook's corner threw in the towel)?

      What exactly is suspect about throwing in the towel when the boxer who the corner threw in the towel for, had an eye operation / surgery after the bout?

      I'm not sure if you're being serious with claiming Brook's corner throwing in the towel against GGG was suspect.
      I refute everything you said. You're so full of it it's not even funny anymore. Good luck in all future endeavors as a disreputable salesman.

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      • uppercut510
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        #63
        Originally posted by larryxxx.
        lol................look at this ****
        WOW smfh!!!!!!!!!!!

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