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  • soul_survivor
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    #1

    Shocked at Robbery Claims

    Seriously, just watched the fight now and thought Horn won it clean. I dunno how many of you were sober but watch it without the influence of drugs and friends and Horn won.

    Horn won rounds 1 2 4 5 6 7 12

    Pac won rounds 3 8 9 10 11

    I think the 12th could have been given as a 10-10 but I thought Horns final salvo won it for him.

    Close, competitive, FUN fight but the right man won and the guy looked good doing it.
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    #2
    I don't get the robbery claims either. i wasn't scoring but PAC lost a lot of rounds and didn't look very good

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    • Sandro17
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      #3
      I'm one of the guys who claims a robbery.

      The reason is:

      The number of clean punches landed.

      I scored the fight 117 - 111 Pacquiao.

      Sure Jeff was throwing more, Jeff was pushing forward and was very aggressive. Hell he was mauling Pac. Theres a problem though. I score fights off of punches that land on scoring areas. Jeff was throwing a boat load and was fighting with energy, but all his punches were landing on arms and elbows or while in a clinch. Those aren't scoring punches, even if they make Jeff look good, you have to ignore those shots.

      Pac may hae been retreating and Pac was but he was landing in scoring areas.

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      • hectari
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        The fight was great, I think ESPN should have advised Atlas and Stephen A Smith to tone it down and just ride with Horn, they ruined it for boxing with their emotional outrage. They should have just praised Horn but instead they ruined the debut of a big event on ESPN boxing by their anger.

        Im shocked that Teddy actually took Mannys side, the only real Pacquiao hater is that fool Kevin Iole on Yahoo, everytime Pacquiao fights he talks down on it, this fight he insulted it and said he wasnt impressed this moron keeps expecting Pacquiao to knock out everyone wtf? you dont knock out top level guys and bigger guys that easy, I knew Horn was going to be close to 170 on fight night, he already said he walks around well over 175 and I knew Horn would be trouble for an aging offensive fighter but Manny impressed me I thought he would quit after those two deep head butt cuts from the clash of heads.

        Manny gassed in the 9th round and was tired, that grueling weather though, that fight was fun for real. A lot of people enjoyed it

        Im surprised this many people even watched it, They said Time square in new york was jam packed with people who watched that fight on the big screens and the bars, and they were crying robbery and insulting boxing saying its dead and UFC was the king.

        This was taken in new york right after the Pac Horn fight while people were leaving the bars after the decision


        Thats what ticks me off UFC has some bad robberies but nobody says UFC does it again or **** ufc always with boxing they blame boxing.
        Last edited by hectari; 07-02-2017, 04:44 AM.

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        • Turiaoei29
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          #5
          Originally posted by Sandro17
          I'm one of the guys who claims a robbery.

          The reason is:

          The number of clean punches landed.

          I scored the fight 117 - 111 Pacquiao.

          Sure Jeff was throwing more, Jeff was pushing forward and was very aggressive. Hell he was mauling Pac. Theres a problem though. I score fights off of punches that land on scoring areas. Jeff was throwing a boat load and was fighting with energy, but all his punches were landing on arms and elbows or while in a clinch. Those aren't scoring punches, even if they make Jeff look good, you have to ignore those shots.

          Pac may hae been retreating and Pac was but he was landing in scoring areas.
          Honestly, Pacquiao won 4 rounds at the most. Apart from the one round in which Pac dominated, he was clearly behind in most rounds.

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          • sunny31
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            Originally posted by Sandro17
            I'm one of the guys who claims a robbery.

            The reason is:

            The number of clean punches landed.

            I scored the fight 117 - 111 Pacquiao.

            Sure Jeff was throwing more, Jeff was pushing forward and was very aggressive. Hell he was mauling Pac. Theres a problem though. I score fights off of punches that land on scoring areas. Jeff was throwing a boat load and was fighting with energy, but all his punches were landing on arms and elbows or while in a clinch. Those aren't scoring punches, even if they make Jeff look good, you have to ignore those shots.

            Pac may hae been retreating and Pac was but he was landing in scoring areas.
            Horn landed plenty of clean punches, lots of hooks around the guard, and through the guard when he had Manny on the ropes. Pacquiao was buckled at least 3 or 4 times in different rounds as well, I thought he was in a fair amount of danger of being dropped or hurt in this fight, Horn was the bigger stronger guy with the more sturdy chin. Saying that Horn had the biggest crisis in round 9, and there were times when Pacquiao's more skilful work won him rounds.

            I thought it was a close fight that Horn took by winning the final round. 115-113.

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            • a5pe4
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              #7
              I thought it was a close fight with some rounds that could go either way. I had it something like 115-112 Pacquiao. I think you could make a (sorta weak) case for 115-113 Horn but no way could you come up with 117-111. That's a complete joke and Waleska Roldan should be banned from judging. The main thing I'm annoyed with is how Stephen A Smith is crying about it when we all know he doesn't give a f*** about boxing outside Pacquiao and Mayweather.

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              • !! Shawn
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                #8
                Originally posted by sunny31
                Horn landed plenty of clean punches, lots of hooks around the guard, and through the guard when he had Manny on the ropes. Pacquiao was buckled at least 3 or 4 times in different rounds as well, I thought he was in a fair amount of danger of being dropped or hurt in this fight, Horn was the bigger stronger guy with the more sturdy chin. Saying that Horn had the biggest crisis in round 9, and there were times when Pacquiao's more skilful work won him rounds.

                I thought it was a close fight that Horn took by winning the final round. 115-113.
                Lots of crisp uppercuts inside too.

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                • ray moe
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                  I had horn winning the fight too. I was surprised by people caiming robbery, but then I realized it was pacquiao, had he lost by horrible KO his casual fans would claim robbery too.

                  The only thing I dont agree with you is when you say the fight was fun. I didnt find the fight fun, I dont know why tbh, but I didnt like it very much.

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                  • sunny31
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    Lots of crisp uppercuts inside too.
                    Yep you just reminded me, there was a left uppercut that buckled Manny's legs in the middle of the ring, he never saw it.

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