Comments Thread For: Jeff Horn Shocks Manny Pacquiao in Blood-Filled Upset!

[richardt]

But the thing is, Pac didn't lose, he was robbed. His only significant injuries were the result of head butts. Horn's face was a swollen, cut mess, from Manny's punches. If Pacquiao fights the young elite of the division, losing would still be humiliating to him. The fans might say that he was old & give him a pass, but the beat down would be his to suffer.

He lost on the scorecards and now has to go back and fight Horn again which is a monumental setback, considering this was a cherry pick to begin with. If he had fought the top tier to begin with, for far more potential glory and money, he wouldnt be stuck in this cesspool with a B class fighter. It is far more detrimental when a cherry pick goes wrong and now he is in the same situation that he had with Bradley, as opposed to fighting one the two best welterweights and either winning or going out having done his best to become the best once more. This was a waste of time for him to say the very least and at his age, time is not on his side.

[kafkod]

He lost on the scorecards and now has to go back and fight Horn again which is a monumental setback, considering this was a cherry pick to begin with. If he had fought the top tier to begin with, for far more potential glory and money, he wouldnt be stuck in this cesspool with a B class fighter. It is far more detrimental when a cherry pick goes wrong and now he is in the same situation that he had with Bradley, as opposed to fighting one the two best welterweights and either winning or going out having done his best to become the best once more. This was a waste of time for him to say the very least and at his age, time is not on his side.

[Spoon23]

Judge WALESKA ROLDAN HAS LONG HISTORY OF ROBBERIES!! PACQUAO-HORN NOT FIRST WBO TOPRANK CORRUPTION SCAM!!

This corrupt Judge is as good as it gets. This is what's wrong in boxing Judges like this.





I checked her Boxrec There is no picture of her. Shady woman.

http://boxrec.com/person/410903

But we have a pic from the fight. She's the woman on the pic. Does that woman look like a woman who follows the sport of boxing? Does that woman look like she knows boxing? She looks like a Judge for a criminal court than a sportswoman who knows the fine art of boxing. How does this judges been picked? These old prunes have old eyes. Can these judges see fast punches and can tell who truly connected with those slow degenerating old senior citizen eyes?? There should be a limit in age for Judging!!

Last question is.. Does this woman ever laced a glove in her life?

Answer is: NO she hasn't!

This is what's wrong in boxing.

[richardt]

The picture paints a thousand words as they say.

[bender2000]

aussies see one of there own winning and frankly dont give a **** how it happened or if it was deserved and how he did it, they couldnt care less manny was robbed and are reporting on there news all the time that its just sour grapes on everyone elses part.

[Spoon23]

You can see Horn was not targeting the head of Pacquiao. He was after the neck for a choke hold or an an arm bar so he can cheap shot Pac over and over again in this fight!






The Press scores:

Majority for Pacquiao the true winner!

http://www.punditarena.com/boxing/jm...ell-need-know/

Full scores:

Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn

Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn

Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn

Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won

Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114

Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won

Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won

Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won

Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114

Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won

Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao

Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won

Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Ryan ******** (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao

Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao

Tom Gray (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”

Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”

Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won

Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)

Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao

Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)

Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)

Salvador Rodriguez (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao

Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”

Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won

Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao

Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao

Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”

Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”

BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao

Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won

Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao

DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao

Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed

Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”

Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114

Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)

Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)

Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn

Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”

Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)

Patrick Connor (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao

Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao

Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won

Kobe Bryant – Pac


Patrick Connor (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

Errol Spence - Pac

Andre Berto - Pac

Gabe Rosado -Pac

Claressa Shields - Pac


Devon Alexander. Pac

Billy Joe Saunders Pac

Sergio Mora Pac

Ray Beltran Pac

Cornelius Bundrage Pac

Joel Diaz Pac


Press:

55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw

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[loui_ludwig]

Teedy Atlas has Pac winning.
Gabriel Rosado has Pac winning.
Even Tim Bradley thought Pac won.
Lennox Lewis is hard pressed how Horn got the decision. And this is what s wrong in boxing.
In Robert Garcia's gym, the guys that were asked, they said Pac won. Don't know what Garcia answered.
In Goosen's gym, 1 or 2 had Pac winning. 2 hac it for Horn.
1 trainer interviewed had Pac winning by 2 rounds. But to be fair, he said 2 rounds could have goe to Horn if he(trainer) was a Horn type of fighter. But he said he gave it yo Pac.
Andre Berto said it was a BS decision.

So you got a majority giving it to Pac and only 2 to Horn.

But what done is done. Horn won but Pac got robbed.

It is not an upset if it is a robbery.

Bye.

[TheBlackSwifty]

Fight Close, could have gone either way but went Horns way. There was no robbery. End of story.

[Spoon23]

The corruption in boxing explained further why It's wrong that Judges are paid the promoters. So much wrong in boxing and a lot of stream lining must be done to eradicate this kind of practice In boxing.


Boxing.com


http://www.boxing.com/exceeding_expe...l_winning.html

It makes it even more disappointing that such disgraceful decisions still happen so frequently in boxing, since ESPN saw fantastic television ratings for the Pacquiao-Horn bout. Instead of a great night for the sport, increasing the television viewership with a big name star like Manny Pacquaio in a fun, action-filled fight, those new or returning viewers were shown why they can’t take boxing seriously. How emotionally invested will most people become in a sport that frequently robs and disrespects its own athletes?

The only way this sort of disgraceful judging will change is if the sport changes the way judges are compensated. Currently, they are paid directly by the promoters of a fight, rather than by the athletic commissions. It’s an obvious conflict of interest, and is the primary reason it’s easy to wonder about corruption when a dubious or downright bad decision is turned in.

In addition, a critical eye needs to be turned to professional boxing judges’ ability to mentally perform at such a high level. It takes a lot of focus and intensity to properly score rounds in a fight, and we have seen many cases in recent years where the judges involved in poor scoring became confused either about which fighter was which (as in the recent Burnett-Haskins fight in the UK) or just confused in general (as in the Tony Thompson-Luis Ortiz bout in March 2016). It seems that many sanctioning bodies and athletic commissions aren’t taking the jobs that judges perform as seriously as they should.

[Spoon23]

"I thought Pacquiao v Horn was an outrageous decision!" - Jeff Powell