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Originally posted by Mister Wolf View PostPrime in regard to athletes has always represented age. Mid twenties to early thirties. People try to make up their own rules for prime and start saying ****** **** like Vitali wasn't in his prime when he lost to Lewis or Hopkins was in his prime when he fought Taylor.
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Originally posted by Mister Wolf View PostPrime in regard to athletes has always represented age. Mid twenties to early thirties. People try to make up their own rules for prime and start saying ****** **** like Vitali wasn't in his prime when he lost to Lewis or Hopkins was in his prime when he fought Taylor.
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Originally posted by Mister Wolf View PostPrime in regard to athletes has always represented age. Mid twenties to early thirties. People try to make up their own rules for prime and start saying ****** **** like Vitali wasn't in his prime when he lost to Lewis or Hopkins was in his prime when he fought Taylor.
no way
prime represents the top of the bell curve indicating when you were at your best and most effective
just a quick example.....
the prime in that quick example should be slightly higher for a fighter
some fighters start late, develop late, or just have extraordinarily long careers, like Hopkins..... Hopkins is an ATG and yet he wasn't even close to prime in his mid-twenties
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Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostSo I guess Hopkins debuted in his prime at 23? Lost his first fight so I guess that impacts his legacy then right? Since age is the only criteria for prime yes?
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This is probably one of those "keep the feeling" thing the same thing Marquez who was once offered 15 freaking million when the PPV was not yet discovered to be poofing so bad. It's a subtle way of saying I'm a coward I don't have a trust and supreme confidence that I'd be able to pull a victory again so i'd leave it at that. Fans have mistaken this as integrity thing, but this is cowardice. You got offered the biggest payday and the fight is entertaining to the fans universally. There's no reason but cowardice. It's more like keep the feeling of being a coward.
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Originally posted by j.razor View PostWell how long did Lomachenko vs Marriaga take?
Making a deal with Marriaga is not the same thing as making a deal with Rigondeaux. For Marriaga it's basically a take it or leave it negotiation. Marriaga has zero leverage. And a fight with Marriaga needs zero promotion. Because it's a showcase. A negotiation with Rigondeaux would take time. There would be a back & forth. Then you need to truly promote a fight of that magnitude. That's a BIG fight. And the date is like literally 34 days from now.
It's pure fantasy to think that the two teams, Team Rigondeaux and Team Lomachenko, would hammer out a deal that suits both sides, promote this fight, and then be in the ring in barely over a month. Come on man you know **** don't work like that.
This potential fight between Lomachenko and Rigondeaux can be revisited immediately after the Marriaga showcase.
And you know that Bob doesn't want to immediately put Lomachenko in a tough fight in his first ESPN fight. That's why they opted for a showcase opponent. Y'all think I'm making excuses but I'm not. It's just the reality of the situation. I want to see Rigondeaux vs Lomachenko as much as you do. That was be an AMAZING fight.
Let Bob showcase him to the new ESPN audience and then let's see what happens. I will be the first one to come in here and admit that Team Lomachenko ducked Rigondeaux if they never ultimately fight him. I swear.
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Originally posted by Mike D View PostRazor, dude. I've seen you make smart posts before so I know you know where I'm coming from.
Making a deal with Marriaga is not the same thing as making a deal with Rigondeaux. For Marriaga it's basically a take it or leave it negotiation. Marriaga has zero leverage. And a fight with Marriaga needs zero promotion. Because it's a showcase. A negotiation with Rigondeaux would take time. There would be a back & forth. Then you need to truly promote a fight of that magnitude. That's a BIG fight. And the date is like literally 34 days from now.
It's pure fantasy to think that the two teams, Team Rigondeaux and Team Lomachenko, would hammer out a deal that suits both sides, promote this fight, and then be in the ring in barely over a month. Come on man you know **** don't work like that.
This potential fight between Lomachenko and Rigondeaux can be revisited immediately after the Marriaga showcase.
And you know that Bob doesn't want to immediately put Lomachenko in a tough fight in his first ESPN fight. That's why they opted for a showcase opponent. Y'all think I'm making excuses but I'm not. It's just the reality of the situation. I want to see Rigondeaux vs Lomachenko as much as you do. That was be an AMAZING fight.
Let Bob showcase him to the new ESPN audience and then let's see what happens. I will be the first one to come in here and admit that Team Lomachenko ducked Rigondeaux if they never ultimately fight him. I swear.
I don't care as much about Loma vs Rigo as many people do, but yeah it was never gonna be done in time for an early August date
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Why not just ****ing pay Salido what he wants? As long as it's not unreasonable like wanting several million dollars.
That Marriaga fight is complete trash!! Waste of ****ing time.
What does beating Marriaga do?
They should have tried negotiating with that rigo. Even though I do think rigo is ****ing scared to move above 122 and they're just playing all the idiots that believe their lies..but who knows maybe he is telling the truth. That's why it's important to ****ing try!!
**** this Marriaga fight. So ****ing dumb....unless they can get Loma two more fights to end the year the maybe it'll be ok.
But I seriously doubt that.
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