Since boxing has evolved so much who wins these match ups.

[Funky_Monk]

I don't know about 2015. That is a risky statement to make since fighters of 2010's is so horrible.

The 3rd best Heavyweight right now is probably Alexander Povetkin still. Behind Joshua and Fury.

Are you saying Alexander Povetkin can beat the 3rd best Heavyweight of the 70's? Either Foreman or Frazier?

What about
Fury vs Ali

What about
Dereck Chisora vs Larry Holmes?


The 90's-late 2000's modern guys will possibly beat the 70's though but will be close.

You might find exceptions but as a generalisation, modern era will beat historical. You'll always get people who like to harp back to the good old days.
Your example puts a multiple time WC who reigned for a period of time up against someone who won a WT and never defend, and a WC against a contender in modern day.
I'd have Ali as the greatest HW of all time that doesn't mean I think he'd beat every heavyweight.

[JasonBoxing]

You might find exceptions but as a generalisation, modern era will beat historical. You'll always get people who like to harp back to the good old days.
Your example puts a multiple time WC who reigned for a period of time up against someone who won a WT and never defend, and a WC against a contender in modern day.
I'd have Ali as the greatest HW of all time that doesn't mean I think he'd beat every heavyweight.

Ali will comfortably beat every HEAVYWEIGHT in a best of 3 outside of Lewis........

[JasonBoxing]

Technology allows people to fight for longer. Thats about it.

They've always had the same fuqing nutrition. How is nutrition better? That makes no sense.

Thurman would beat Ray Leonard? That's insane.

I'm a big Spence fan, but you'd have to be insane to assume he could bear Ray Robinson, probably the absolutely most complete and deadly fighter the game as seen.

Lighterweights don't really count since the overall size and power is more or less in the same ballpark.

But if you have a cut off of say 90's for Heavyweights?

The top 100 Heavyweights of the 90's and 2000's and 2010's will comfortably beat the top 100 of the 1920's.
That's a undisputed fact imo.

[W1LL]

Wilfred Benitez vs. Terence Crawford
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Keith Thurman
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Errol Spence Jr.
Gennady Golovkin vs. Marvin Hagler
Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Willie Pep
Carlos Monzon vs. Andre Ward
Vernon Forrest vs. Shawn Porter
Roberto Duran vs. Manny Pacquiao
Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Pernell Whitaker
George Foreman vs. Deontay Wilder
Anthony Joshua vs. Lennox Lewis

Winners underlined. 6-5 to the old school.

[madsweeney]

If you were speaking purely on an athletic competition (like swimming, sprinting, etc.) modern technology, medicine and nutrition would give modern athletes an advantage.

Boxing is as much reliant on (moreso IMO) skill, instincts, and durability than pure athletic ability and while skills can be taught, the other two cannot and when you look at modern fighters, they tend to be fundamentally less skilled than older eras as they rely on athleticism more.

[Hatesrats]

Wilfred Benietez
Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Marvin Hagler
Vasyl Lomachencko
Andre Ward
Vernon Forrest
Roberto Duran
Floyd Mayweather
George Foreman
Lennox Lewis

[Eff Pandas]

I wonder if other sports get so many dumb ass questions on message boards & forums? Or B- trolling, whatever applies.

[Eff Pandas]

Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Willie Pep
Carlos Monzon vs. Andre Ward
.

How many Pep & Monzon fights have you seen? Just curious. Not even trying to break your balls or anything.

[Tails]

If you were speaking purely on an athletic competition (like swimming, sprinting, etc.) modern technology, medicine and nutrition would give modern athletes an advantage.

Boxing is as much reliant on (moreso IMO) skill, instincts, and durability than pure athletic ability and while skills can be taught, the other two cannot and when you look at modern fighters, they tend to be fundamentally less skilled than older eras as they rely on athleticism more.

This is more or less my outlook on this topic as well. I'd say around the 70's-80's is when boxing technique got really refined and the stuff that has been taught then is still more or less taught today. Meaning trainers and boxers had picked up on what works in the ring as far as defense, offense, and footwork from looking at the past fighters prior to the 70's and more or less began to morph unique styles based off of that.

I will say that in regards to modern athleticism, I think it gets over hyped to a certain extent when it comes to boxing because some of these boxers from the past thirty years had some amazing speed and stamina.

[GhostofDempsey]

Boxing has evolved? WTF you talking about? If anything, it has devolved. Fighters today are fighting twice per year against cherry-picked opposition. They are more protected now than ever, fights get stopped earlier, gloves are bigger, and trainers are quicker to throw in the towel.

Fighters of previous eras were masters of the sweet science. They perfected their infighting game, they were in top condition, and fought more often. Boxing is the one sport where athletes have not evolved over the decades.