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  • TexasCowBoy
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    #61
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
    This is great if it's true but now I can see Rigondeaux demanding 2 million bucks to do it, and then when the promoters can't afford it, they will spin the BS they already set up in this article about how "we already beat his other fighter, and now he's hiding Lomachenko from Rigondeaux."

    It's not just the weight that is the issue. It's the money. Rigondeaux claims he's wanted this fight to "fight the best" but in reality he's always wanted it for the money as well. He wants a million dollar fight not a hundred K fight.

    So yeah, if Rigo offers to fight Lomachenko at 130, for fair money, and Lomachenko turns it down, then Lomachenko will lose a fan. But with all the bull**** Roc Nation is known for, they could be the ones bluffing here, not Lomachenko. "Yeah we called your bluff, now give us 5 million. No? Okay they folded! We win! Now write more articles about me and Lomachenko to build my name so I can keep getting paydays to fight nobodies!"

    So we'll see. No "bluff" has been called yet, not until Team Rigondeaux reveals their money demands to make the fight.
    Excellent Post

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    • rickJen
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      #62
      Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
      Why doesn't Roc Nation give him money? All the cash wasted on Ward for 130k buys. Arum and hbo are on budget and only way fighters get big pay days now is Arum making it ppv. Arum has a plan for his fighters and thinking of the future. Rigo has no future and it seems hes gonna be in limbo once roc nation folds.
      Roc Nation has disintegrated. They're getting out of the boxing business.
      Cotto is now with GBP and Roc is letting Ward go.
      Meaning, Rigo is currently a free agent.

      Biggest question is why isn't Haymon interested in the Cuban?
      There's also TMT and then Showtime.
      Why aren't they signing him up?

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      • jas
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        #63
        Steve Kim said on twitter 30mins ago that lomas take on this was given to boxingscene so expecting an article to be posted soon...

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        • RetroSpeed05
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          #64
          Originally posted by Boxing Logic
          This is a great point. Tell Jay-Z to pony up! If Rigo doesn't get the money he wants for this, that's on Jay-Z!
          They keep blaming Arum and never answer when asked why doesn't Roc nation pay. 6 mil for Ward but the great cuban they give peanuts worse then when he was with Arum. Another thing Arum let go of Rigo also because of he was signed with those small town promoters that brought him over here and were hard to work with i think they had problems at the time with Rigo other manager. Of course haters of certain type of fighters are never gonna question Rigo.

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          • ray moe
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            #65
            Originally posted by Boxing Logic
            This is great if it's true but now I can see Rigondeaux demanding 2 million bucks to do it, and then when the promoters can't afford it, they will spin the BS they already set up in this article about how "we already beat his other fighter, and now he's hiding Lomachenko from Rigondeaux."

            It's not just the weight that is the issue. It's the money. Rigondeaux claims he's wanted this fight to "fight the best" but in reality he's always wanted it for the money as well. He wants a million dollar fight not a hundred K fight.

            So yeah, if Rigo offers to fight Lomachenko at 130, for fair money, and Lomachenko turns it down, then Lomachenko will lose a fan. But with all the bull**** Roc Nation is known for, they could be the ones bluffing here, not Lomachenko. "Yeah we called your bluff, now give us 5 million. No? Okay they folded! We win! Now write more articles about me and Lomachenko to build my name so I can keep getting paydays to fight nobodies!"

            So we'll see. No "bluff" has been called yet, not until Team Rigondeaux reveals their money demands to make the fight.
            Lol, what's sure is that he will demand more than 500K. 500k was what your boy lomachenko offered last time. THAT WAS A JKNG JOKE!! A TOTAL DUCK!!!. Yes, 100% sure he will demand more money. Probably your boy will offer 500k again, and probably the fight will not be done.

            The funny part? you all lomo's boys saying "rigo ducked" after your boy offering peanuts for a fight.

            No problem, man, boxing is like that nowadays. Boxers ducking and fans clapping. Specially blatant with EE fighters and fans. You are all a joke.

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            • Nomadic
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              #66
              Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame
              I swear if this fight gets made it would seal this year as one of the best competitive years ever.

              130 no excuses now. Over to you Neo.
              It's been a while since we had a scorcher of a year, make this one happen.

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              • Robi13
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                #67
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                I'm sorry, did Lomachenko give Rigondeaux his belt? No? Then what the **** are you even talking about lol? Canelo won the middleweight championship of the world. GGG was also a middleweight. How are the two situations at all comparable? Not to mention, Canelo is getting a huge percentage of the split, so yes GGG made concessions. Canelo's side is also the lead promoter, and got to choose the venue. They also got to decide what date the fight happened on, as GGG wanted the fight two years ago. They waited until GGG was 35.

                So you have no idea what you're talking about. The only thing I can think of is that you're trying to say but failing is that Canelo is fighting GGG at 160 when he could have fought him at 155. Except, he couldn't have, because GGG said no. GGG used his mandatory spot to take Canelo's belt, and then when Canelo asked GGG for 155, GGG said **** you because GGG is also a much bigger star than Rigondeaux, plus Canelo was already a middleweight so why should he? Oscar said it was always the plan for Canelo to grow into middleweight anyway, and that's what they did. They took their time doing it too.

                That's the difference between a C-side like Rigondeaux, who brings no money to the table, and an A-side like GGG in every fight except Canelo, a franchise like GGG who sells out 20,000+ tickets all over the world. But I don't want to confuse you, the bottom line is Lomachenko never gave his belt to Rigondeaux, Canelo did.
                Stop with the bs! Long story short, y'all cried when canelo used his a side status but hail loma for it. Hypocrisy

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                • Robi13
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SniXSniPe
                  No, the only problem here is people like you are hypocrites, and just flat out incredibly ******. GGG and Lomachenko don't have anything to do with each other, but unfortunately, people like you associate them together because of skin color. Guess what... any rational boxing fan would be a fan of either guy (or at least, not a hater. You don't need to be a fan) if they weren't prejudiced about skin color.

                  Secondly, Rigondeaux and Lomachenko already went through negotiations about 2? years ago. Rigo wanted 124, Loma declined. Rigo then offered 126 with rehydration limit of 135ish. Loma accepted. Both agreed to the financials. Rigo ended up pulling out of the fight despite weight and finances being agreed upon, IIRC because he decided last minute he wanted to go back on the weight agreement.

                  Lomachenko moved up to 130 and has been there for 1 year now. Lomachenko already attempted and had the fight made, Rigo messed his opportunity up. It's not Loma's fault.

                  Yet here you are: still finding a way to blame this on Lomachenko. LOL. As if, he needs to make concessions at this point when it's clear Rigo is desperate for a big fight, since nobody else wants to fight him. Loma is aiming for tough fights, against guys like Mikey Garcia. Who would be ****** enough to blame Lomachenko and act like he's ducking, when Mikey and other guys at 135 are tougher and more dangerous fights?

                  At the end of the day, Rigo has only himself/his team to blame for this. He could have fought Lomachenko at 126 previously, but ended up declining it. Loma was willing to make concessions then, he doesn't need to anymore. There is no hypocrisy here, just morons like yourself who can't see the obvious picture.
                  I was a ggg fan until his other fans started taking trash. Like he the best thing since sliced bread... I never mentioned skin color... you did. I don't care about Any of that mess. It's just y'all ggg lomachenko fans are very... ignorant.

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                  • Robi13
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SniXSniPe
                    No, the only problem here is people like you are hypocrites, and just flat out incredibly ******. GGG and Lomachenko don't have anything to do with each other, but unfortunately, people like you associate them together because of skin color. Guess what... any rational boxing fan would be a fan of either guy (or at least, not a hater. You don't need to be a fan) if they weren't prejudiced about skin color.

                    Secondly, Rigondeaux and Lomachenko already went through negotiations about 2? years ago. Rigo wanted 124, Loma declined. Rigo then offered 126 with rehydration limit of 135ish. Loma accepted. Both agreed to the financials. Rigo ended up pulling out of the fight despite weight and finances being agreed upon, IIRC because he decided last minute he wanted to go back on the weight agreement.

                    Lomachenko moved up to 130 and has been there for 1 year now. Lomachenko already attempted and had the fight made, Rigo messed his opportunity up. It's not Loma's fault.

                    Yet here you are: still finding a way to blame this on Lomachenko. LOL. As if, he needs to make concessions at this point when it's clear Rigo is desperate for a big fight, since nobody else wants to fight him. Loma is aiming for tough fights, against guys like Mikey Garcia. Who would be ****** enough to blame Lomachenko and act like he's ducking, when Mikey and other guys at 135 are tougher and more dangerous fights?

                    At the end of the day, Rigo has only himself/his team to blame for this. He could have fought Lomachenko at 126 previously, but ended up declining it. Loma was willing to make concessions then, he doesn't need to anymore. There is no hypocrisy here, just morons like yourself who can't see the obvious picture.
                    All your hostility is a sign that my post was on point lol. Don't be mad bro... Just calling it like it is that's all

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                    • kafkod
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      you can easily argue it's not fair on Rigo

                      that fight should have been made at 126, tops

                      you can also argue that the onus is not on Loma to hang around

                      I hate to see a fighter forced to campaign out of his natural division

                      but yea, love Rigo's mojo..... him and Loma are fearless

                      GREAT fight, don't care who wins

                      a lot of my favorite fighters seem to be matching up this year
                      You hypocritical scumbag!

                      How do hypocrites like you cunts even take yourselves seriously?

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