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  • boxinghead530
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    #121
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    That's a lie.

    Why lie?
    Lie about what? There was never any mention or the fight was never bild as two P4P fighters fighting. That's not a lie.

    Look dude you and I can disagree on how the top 10 P4P ratings were or the significance of them back then.

    But if you think Chico was a true #5 P4P which is a very high rating during that fight. Then why after that fight he never touched the top 10 again.

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      #122
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      That's a lie.

      Why lie?
      Lie about what? There was never any mention or the fight was never billed as two P4P fighters fighting. That's not a lie.

      Look dude you and I can disagree on how the top 10 P4P ratings were or the significance of them back then.

      But if you think Chico was a true #5 P4P which is a very high rating during that fight. Then why after that fight he never touched the top 10 again in his career.

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      • ironmt
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        #123
        Originally posted by boxinghead530
        Lie about what? There was never any mention or the fight was never bild as two P4P fighters fighting. That's not a lie.

        Look dude you and I can disagree on how the top 10 P4P ratings were or the significance of them back then.

        But if you think Chico was a true #5 P4P which is a very high rating during that fight. Then why after that fight he never touched the top 10 again.
        There really Isn't any thinking about It. He was ranked the #5 p4p fighter In the world and just because a guy never returns to the list doesn't make It any less relevant.

        The Ring P4P rankings have been around since the 20's.

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          #124
          Originally posted by boxinghead530
          Lie about what? There was never any mention or the fight was never bild as two P4P fighters fighting. That's not a lie.

          Look dude you and I can disagree on how the top 10 P4P ratings were or the significance of them back then.

          But if you think Chico was a true #5 P4P which is a very high rating during that fight. Then why after that fight he never touched the top 10 again.
          You are lying about the fact it wasn't mentioned in the build up. It was mentioned.

          It's irrelevant. Is this your new argument? He was #5 when he fought Floyd that's what matters.

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            #125
            Originally posted by ironmt
            There really Isn't any thinking about It. He was ranked the #5 p4p fighter In the world and just because a guy never returns to the list doesn't make It any less relevant.

            The Ring P4P rankings have been around since the 20's.
            The 80's.

            But the term "P4P" was coined around then.

            There has been official lists since the early 80's with KO Magazine and then The Ring Magazine since 1989.

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              #126
              You can tell who was actually watching boxing back then. Those that weren't are desperately trying to re-write history.

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                #127
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                You are lying about the fact it wasn't mentioned in the build up. It was mentioned.

                It's irrelevant. Is this your new argument? He was #5 when he fought Floyd that's what matters.
                Dude is was not used as notion to bill the fight as that. It just wasn't dude. Was it mentioned in a fleeting moment during the build up? *** I don't know possibly. But Chico being a P4P#5 guy and Floyd being top 10 that was never used in the promotion or build up. It wasn't.

                As far as Chico being number 5 P4P. Well this is how solid that ranking was for him. After that fight he never came to being a top 10 P4P guy again in his career. If he was a true top 5 P4P guy one lose wouldn't have prevented him from still being a top P4P guy again and climbing those ranking again.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by boxinghead530
                  Dude is was not used as notion to bill the fight as that. It just wasn't dude. Was it mentioned in a fleeting moment during the build up? *** I don't know possibly. But Chico being a P4P#5 guy and Floyd being top 10 that was never used in the promotion or build up. It wasn't.

                  As far as Chico being number 5 P4P. Well this is how solid that ranking was for him. After that fight he never came to being a top 10 P4P guy again in his career. If he was a true top 5 P4P guy one lose wouldn't have prevented him from still being a top P4P guy again and climbing those ranking again.
                  It's rarely ever used to build a fight.

                  But it was mentioned many times in the build up just as it is today.

                  And again it's irrelevant. What's relevant is he was ranked #5 when he fought him.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    It's rarely ever used to build a fight.

                    But it was mentioned many times in the build up just as it is today.

                    And again it's irrelevant. What's relevant is he was ranked #5 when he fought him.
                    Dude in today's fight game if there are two top 10 P4P guys fighting they use that as an angle to sell the fight.

                    In the Floyd-Chico fight that wasn't used as an angle to sell the fight. It just wasn't. It was about two young hungry undefeated champions fighting. Period.

                    And as far as Chico being P4P number 5. It goes to show you how solid that ranking was if he could never come close to cracking the top 10 P4P again. If a fighter is a true P4P #5 fighter, then one loss is not going to prevent him from entering those rankings again later in his career.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by boxinghead530
                      Dude in today's fight game if there are two top 10 P4P guys fighting they use that as an angle to sell the fight.

                      In the Floyd-Chico fight that wasn't used as an angle to sell the fight. It just wasn't. It was about two young hungry undefeated champions fighting. Period.

                      And as far as Chico being P4P number 5. It goes to show you how solid that ranking was if he could never come close to cracking the top 10 P4P again. If a fighter is a true P4P #5 fighter, then one loss is not going to prevent him from entering those rankings again later in his career.
                      Nah not really. No more than they would back then. Just talking nonsense again.

                      Second point is dumb. That's like saying someone like Doniare was never P4P quality because he lost and never returned to the list.

                      Corrales was a P4P quality fighter in 2000. Simple as that.

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